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[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 105 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I couldn't care less about crashes, that's an end-user problem. But do you expect me to go to sleep while that squiggly line in my IDE??

/s just in case

[-] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Step 1: Remove the LSP from IDE.mod

Step 2: Run go mod tidy

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I mean it isn't even just a squiggly line, the code fails to compile. Like come on, I will clean up my unused imports and variables before sending it for review, but just let me develop in peace.

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 65 points 2 years ago

Whenever the compiler refuses to compile because of an unused var:

Hey Jeff, we know the variable is unused. WE CAN SEE THE SQUIGGLE

[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not a go dev. Is it really preventing compilation or is it just some hardened linting rules? Most languages can prevent compile on those errors if tweaked, but that seems bad if it's not a warning

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 61 points 2 years ago

Yes, and it fucking sucks. It's a great thing to lint for but it makes debugging such a pain - commenting out an irrelevant block to focus your debugging will sometimes break your ability to compile... it's extremely jarring.

[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

Making a variable just to hold a debug value to look at with a breakpoint, but Go says no.

[-] pipe01@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

You can do _ = variable

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Print-style debugging/logging has entered the chat.

[-] technojamin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

This is why many languages have errors and warnings as separate things. Errors for things that for sure prevent the program from working, and warnings for things that are probably wrong but don’t prevent things from working. If you have a setting to then treat warnings as errors (like for CI checks), then you get all the guarantees and none of the frustration.

[-] herrvogel@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Have they given an explanation as to why that is? I mean why make it a fatal error that prevents compilation, when you could make it a warning and have the compiler simply skip it?

[-] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Its an effort to keep large code bases clean. I think they should allow them when running go run but not when building.

[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I can see the sentiment here... Going through 100 clippy warning on Rust is just not fun... I know there's the good old clippy --fix but I'm paranoid it breaks my code accidentally.

Could probably have a compromise like 5 unused variables and your code don't compile

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[-] firelizzard@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I totally agree that it’s really annoying when debugging, but go run literally builds then executes. I think what they should do is add a build flag. So debug builds can pass that flag to get the builder to shut up, and leave ~~it~~ those errors enabled for production builds.

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[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Has Google never heard of CI to perform such checks?

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

Keep in mind that this is the same language that prefers function names ToBeLikeThis(), and the reason is that it looks different than Java.

[-] fadhl3y@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Every time I think "perhaps I should give Golang another try", it's shit like this that keeps me noping out

[-] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

There's two types of programming languages, the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses. Go is still my most productive language and is killer for building webservers. I basically use it as a scripting language since it's so fast to write, compile, and execute.

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[-] dbx12@programming.dev 17 points 2 years ago

Unused variable is an error which fails to compile.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 4 points 2 years ago

Whoah, that seems like you'd flesh out code elsewhere, you know when you throw stuff together to make it work, and then fix it up to standards.

Feels like you should have to make git commits perfectly well before being able to compile...

Put that overwhelmingly intrusive thing in a hook checking out your commits instead (when you push your branch ofc).

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[-] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

What reason is there for this when the compiler could just optimize that variable out of existence? This feels like the most hand holdy annoying "feature" unless I'm missing something.

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[-] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

I don't think its inherently bad but it feels jarring when the language allows you reference nill pointers. It's so effective in its hand holding otherwise that blowing things up should not be so easy.

[-] GarytheSnail@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Yes but I've never found it to be that annoying.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 years ago

You'll go fmt and you'll like it. Go has the single easiest to Google name of any programming language. Thou shalt not question golang decisions.

[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago

Go has the single easiest to Google name of any programming language.

Ackchually Screenshot_20240215-004708_Mull

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago

C is also bad - but I do think .Net takes the cake. I'm willing to give C a pass though since it existed before we had search engines... Go was specifically developed at Google so there's no excuse.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

it's like half the number of keystrokes

[-] 30p87@feddit.de 21 points 2 years ago

I'm gonna name some language "``` head -n1 /dev/random | base64 ``" so it's easy to search

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago

I'm a cruel person - so I've been contemplating naming a language .NET

[-] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

You wouldn't dare! Nobody's that evil..

[-] 30p87@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

At least it isn't confused with a certain Java clone by an evil company or ++ version of itself or not acknowledged at all, because it is just named after a single character, like C for example...

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

a certain Java clone by an evil company

Because Oracle are the good guys now?

[-] 30p87@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Never said that Oracle isn't evil, just pointed out M$ is extra evil

[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 2 years ago

Java clone by an evil company

... J++? Visual J#?

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[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Ah yes. The good old go figure --it out

[-] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

I ran across an old Stackoverflow question from many years ago where someone asked a question about types and wondered if generics could solve it. There was a very high-minded, lengthy reply that Go does not have generics, because that makes the language small and clean.

Since then, Go has implemented generics. Because who the hell wants a strongly typed language without generics on this side of 2010?

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I honestly only think generics made it into Go because the designers started getting embarrassed by the solution to nearly every problem being "create an empty interface".

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[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 2 years ago

I thought everyone else just did what I do -- if there's a squiggle, take away the squiggle part. If something's missing, make a blank line and then blindly bounce on the tab key until Copilot fixes it.

That's step 1, and if that doesn't work, step 2 is to actually look at what's going on and try to fix it.

[-] Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

You bring back my bad memories of having to implement a server program in rust and all my searches ended up with about 1/3 useful results and the rest being hosting options for rust gameservers

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[-] xlash123@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago

Imagine getting segmentation faults at runtime

This post was brought to you by the Rust crew

[-] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

Neither does Haskell, and Haskell won't waste time doing something that doesn't matter.

[-] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Imagine using a linked list as your default sequential container.
Rust iterators are lazy btw.

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[-] tuto193@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

As a use-rust-for-even-the-most-basic-task elitist, I laugh.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

You laugh in 16 GB to compile rust-to-bytecode compiler

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