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[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Hi: Theistic Christian here.

Worship who/what you want and marry who you love and be kind to everyone. Even the people you don't like. Trans people are people and good deeds don't get you into heaven.

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[-] krondo@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I mean there is a benefit to convert someone to your sexuality (you fugg'em) but the very sentence I wrought there sounds insane and outlandish I don't understand how you would go about that.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

I would propose that some Christians think that gays are trying to convert them because they feel attracted to people of the same gender. If you have no sexual attraction to people of the same sex, then the idea that you could ever be converted to being gay is going to seem ridiculous. I'm straight; I'm simply uninterested in being people with male bodies or male genitalia. On the other hand, if I was bisexual--or simply gay--and believed that homosexuality was sinful, then I might feel like depictions of homosexual people in media was an attempt to change who I "am".

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

As someone who was raised in the church I think this completely misses their perspective.

They believe that God is completely fair and just, and wouldn't make someone in a way that was contrary to how he wants people to be. So it's impossible for being LGBT to be something innate and unchangeable, since that would require God created people specifically in a way that he says is wrong.

So instead they go with "it's a choice, they were 'converted' and it's possible for them to mess up everyone else too." It's just to stave off cognitive dissonance, essentially. You can't believe in a God that says being gay is sinful and then creates people to be gay, so you have to believe it's like alcoholism or something and can affect anyone.

There's no logic behind it and clearly no scientific data, but that won't stop them because they arrived at the conclusion based purely on it being the only thing they can believe and not change the way they understand the nature of their God claim.

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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There's also the problem of some religious conservatives not realizing that straight people exist.

According to conservative psychologists like Paul Cameron or James Dobson, gay sex is a huge "temptation" that people must learn to resist; they worry that it would be the downfall of society if more people chose to succumb to that temptation. They might blame that temptation on Satan directly, or on LGBT+ propagandists, or liberalism; but they very much seem to believe that anyone could choose to be gay.

Sorry, no, that's not how straight people work.

If you experience gay sex as a strong temptation, you're just not straight. That's okay! Quite a lot of people are straight, and are just not interested in having gay sex. If all the people who are "tempted" to have gay sex went and did so, there would still be lots of straight people left having lots of straight sex.

The odd part is that these conservative psychologists then teach this doctrine of "gay sex is a strong temptation for everyone" to an audience composed of mostly straight people.

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