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cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/5484255

February 22, 2024 Bluesky writes:

Up until now, every user on the network used a Bluesky PDS (Personal Data Server) to host their data. We’ve already federated our own data hosting on the backend, both to help operationally scale our service, and to prove out the technical underpinnings of an openly federated network. But today we’re opening up federation for anyone else to begin connecting with the network.

The PDS, in many ways, fulfills a simple role: it hosts your account and gives you the ability to log in, it holds the signing keys for your data, and it keeps your data online and highly available. Unlike a Mastodon instance, it does not need to function as a full-fledged social media service. We wanted to make atproto data hosting—like web hosting—into a fairly simple commoditized service. The PDS’s role has been limited in scope to achieve this goal. By limiting the scope, the role of a PDS in maintaining an open and fluid data network has become all the more powerful.

We’ve packaged the PDS into a friendly distribution with an installer script that handles much of the complexity of setting up a PDS. After you set up your PDS and join the PDS Admins Discord to submit a request for your PDS to be added to the network, your PDS’s data will get routed to other services in the network (like feed generators and the Bluesky Appview) through our Relay, the firehose provider. Check out our Federation Overview for more information on how data flows through the atproto network.

Read Early Access Federation for Self-Hosters

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[-] doomsdayrs@cyberpunk.lol 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

@ericjmorey

"After you set up your PDS and join the PDS Admins Discord to submit a request for your PDS to be added to the network, your PDS’s data will get routed to other services in the network"

BWHAHAHAH YOU NEED TO FUCKING JOIN A DISCORD FOR THIS?

BWHAHAHAH

#bluesky #federation #discord

[-] ericjmorey@discuss.online 5 points 8 months ago

It's unclear if that's temporary (But I can't imagine them manually adding self-hosted accounts forever).

[-] doomsdayrs@cyberpunk.lol 2 points 8 months ago

@ericjmorey Nah its techbros they'd do this indefinitely until someone gives them a better idea (they can't make original things).

[-] ericjmorey@discuss.online 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I get the skepticism. I'm not all that optimistic about Bluesky myself, but they clearly already made an original thing and other "techbros" have made original things many times.

The good news is this is all openly designed and implimented so it could be used for something potentially better.

[-] ericjmorey@discuss.online 4 points 8 months ago

Looks like you might be wrong

[-] mackuba@martianbase.net 1 points 8 months ago

@ericjmorey @doomsdayrs No, it's actually extremely clear that it is temporary…

[-] ericjmorey@discuss.online 2 points 8 months ago

The blog post didn't make that clear, but I see that it's repeated in other blog posts and on the Discord server.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So it's a centrally controlled network? That doesn't really seem like proper federation protocol.

Or is it only to federate with their main instance? Meaning InstanceX and InstanceY can still federate with each other even without approval from the overlords.

[-] ericjmorey@discuss.online 2 points 8 months ago

I haven't dug into the details, but there seem to be a lot of blog posts and extensive documentation to figure it out.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I want to know this too, how does it work?

[-] crazyCat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Do they still require a phone number? They didn’t let me join based on my country.

[-] ericjmorey@discuss.online 2 points 8 months ago

I just made an account with nothing more than a throwaway email address. So a phone number is not required.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 1 points 8 months ago

I was blocked from sign up too due to the phone number verifier didn't support my country, but when I tried again several days ago, they doesn't seem to require phone number anymore.

this post was submitted on 23 Feb 2024
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