Damn what is happening in France
A couple of idiots are failing to learn from history, heads are preparing to roll. Just a guess. "Cracking down" on the French has never really worked.
if they had the CRS and teargas back then, France would still be a kingdom.
don't worry, no heads will roll
The government is tired of people rightfully complaining and so is trying to build a cage around their citizenry to make them compliant. The rich of France are wanting it to be more like America so they can literally suck every penny out of the citizenry
what a shame for France that the richest man in the world is a Frenchman now
How are they going to stop people from downloading the source and modifying it and building versions of the browser that do not comply with that bullshit? Are they going to block French citizens from accessing the Firefox open source project entirely?
Laws are usually made by people far detached from what they are ruling on. In short: They have no idea. Although majority of the planet uses chromium based browsers and once this is implemented in chromium its kinda decided.
Except at it's core chromium is open source, and I can't see the FOSS community embracing the idea. The French also wouldn't be able to fully limit access to unrestricted browsers.
It's an all round dumb idea. Much easier and more effective to tell ISPs to do the blocking.
Sure, Chromium is open source, but let's not pretend that the community has any say over Chromium's direction. Google is making the decisions, we're just allowed to watch
I don't think you understand what open source means.
I think I do. The source is open, but that doesn't mean that the community decides what happens with Chromium. The comment I was replying to said that the FOSS community would not embrace Google's decision. I say that Google does not care about you. What are you gonna do about it, short of forking Chromium and going your own way, or maybe patching out their changes? Most people will stay on the unmodified Chromium
If I maintain a piece of software and everyone decides they'd rather use my version than develop their own, does that mean I control it, or does it just mean everyone is happy enough with my work that they'd rather use mine than do it themselves?
I say that Google does not care about you.
I don't see how that's relevant.
What are you gonna do about it, short of forking Chromium and going your own way, or maybe patching out their changes?
I dunno, maybe use of the many other Chromium-based browsers from groups that are already maintaining their own forks? Or use another browser entirely? I do both, actually.
what I don't get is, they already do this through ISPs. Unless people use tor, they can't see a site that's blocked by their ISP.
so, why 🤷
And the chromium open source project while they are at it...
I think at that point it ceases to be Firefox. I guess the government could go after whoever is distributing the modified browser.
What happened to parental responsibility?
Ok, if you want some info here is a little summary :
And if you want details :
The current proposition of law is a melting pot of many Internet security subjects :
They have different actions at their disposal :
Now, i did not hear from this subject a lot, mostly for the pornography part since we probably soon will have to show ID cards to watch porn. I remember that everytime there are more or less violent protests, government says it originates from social media and that they have to control social media to prevent violences. Most politicians i heard on this seem to not fully understand what is at stake, which is kinda usual.
I'm trying to reframe this in a way that will help me and others better understand; are the measures being proposed in this bill analogous to forcing auto manufacturers to build a car that won't let you drive down certain streets?
That’s not a bad example. But my new one I’m testing is to say a TV that won’t let you browse channels you pay for.
What fresh new hell is this?
Signed. It makes absolutely no sense
Can we sign even if we are not French citizens?
Looks like you can, and it does technically effect everyone... Slippery slopes and what not, or people going "Hey France did this, let's do it here."
Well you can select any country while signing, so I would say yes. If France cares about that it another question.
IMO this even bigger BS that govts are pulling. They are attacking the entire stack: DNS, ISP & now f* browsers.
And it's not just France. The US has some bills that are full of fuckery.
I would not be surprised to learn other countries are at this same tomfoolery.
The US is doing WHAT?!?!
signed
Does Mozilla really think their petitions do anything?
Maybe it doesn't do anything, but not the reason to not do something.
Is Brave affected by this?
If brave is a browser, then yes.
Ah shit
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