How to go about reporting/fixing this Nextcloud bug with the navigation bar (www.loom.com)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by ray@lemmy.ml to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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Update Mar 4: Reported it here.

There is this bug with the Nextcloud menu bar that, when you collapse it, there is a moment of jank where everything is overlapped, and the corner is sharp and looks bad.

At first, I thought I'd report it in the nextcloud/tasks app where I saw it but then I noticed (as you can see in this video) that it also happens in contacts and files.

Nextcloud has plenty of problems but I use it regularly and want to do my part to improve the polish. It shouldn't be terribly hard to update the css transitions to make a less jank experience for tons of people. I reported a similar tiny janky CSS issue in tasks here today (yay).

This comes after seeing some posts (which I can't find now) about software quality that inspired me to try to improve a few things that have bothered me. Yay FOSS :)

At first, I thought nextcloud/server might be the place to report it, but that is a super busy repo. I tried digging through the related issues but don't see anything that jumps out at me as the problem. If I open a low-priority issue like this there, it probably won't get looked at. At the same time, if I spend time digging in and finding a fix without discussion, there is a decent chance it'll either be already fixed or considered not important enough to review among the 100s of open PRs.

Anywhoo, this turned out more of me writing this all just to realize I should probably give them the benefit of the doubt and open an issue even if I'm not totally sure it's the right place but I'll still post the question here: How would you go about finding the right place to report this and maybe even get a fix in? Or maybe have some related stories to share?

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[-] TCB13@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

How to go about reporting/fixing ~~this~~ Nextcloud ~~bug with the navigation bar~~.

NextCloud is pile of garbage, filled with bugs, wired behaviors and basic UX problems that any designer or developer with half a brain cell would not have made. It's also a project that constantly promises everything and anything and ends up under delivering like no other.

Before anyone bitches around, yes, it hurts, deal with it cause it's true.

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Hey, you dont get to talk about my flaming pile of garbage like that.

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

😂 😂 😂 😂

[-] kosmoz@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Honest question… Is there a better alternative?

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

It just doesn’t work. You click to add a bullet list and it doesn’t get added, that’s over the line. And yes every webmail under the sun is better than what NC has to offer. Roundcube is 1000 times better than NC.

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago

Roundcube is a webmail. NC is much more than that. It is not even an alternative, let alone a better one.

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe that’s the problem with NC? It tries to do everything and isn’t good at anything. What’s the point of having a webmail on NC if it can’t style a basic ul? FYI there are a ton of Roundcube plugins to add calendars, contacts, notes and file sync to it. I’m not saying NC isn’t interesting, it is, but it also doesn’t deliver a viable option to Google or Office 365 due to those bugs.

[-] kosmoz@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I totally get where you're coming from and if there was a lean and stable app for files, calendar, contacts and tasks I would be very happy to check it out. But last time I searched there wasn't anything I would trust.

Also, it looks like roundcube is now part of nextcloud 🤷

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

if there was a lean and stable app for files, calendar, contacts and tasks

There is, but it isn't a single app, it's a collection of different services. Maybe it should always be like that.

Also, it looks like roundcube is now part of nextcloud 🤷

Yes, my question on that is: what should we expect now? To have RC as NextCloud's default e-mail interface OR to get RC filled with mindless bugs and crappy features/decisions?

Also, what about Kolab https://kolab.org / https://kolabnow.com? Besides providing e-mail hosting they seem to be the ones pushing the development of RC and essential plugins that are somehow competition for NextCloud.

if there was a lean and stable app for files, calendar, contacts and tasks

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

I use the SnappyMail app for email on NC. It is way faster than their own Mail app, which in my opinion is too slow, specially if you connect to multiple email addresses.

[-] kosmoz@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Fair enough, I guess, but what if I wanna selfhost?

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Roundcube for email. FileBrower to access your files. Baikal or Radicale as contacts and calendar server (there are plugins to show the info inside Roundcube as well).

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ironically, RoundCube is now owned by Nextcloud.

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, like I said here: https://lemmy.world/comment/8067131

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

I use the SnappyMail app for email on NC. It is way faster than their own Mail app, which in my opinion is too slow, specially if you connect to multiple email addresses.

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Nextcloud is widely thought to be too desperate to push new features onto their corporate product for PR and then fail to fix an ever growing list of bugs. Their ver. 28 was utterly full of bugs, even more so than regular.

They also may push a feature/app only to abandon it later. I am running an instance and if I see something else that is comparable, I would consider switching.

Never tried to colab part but the maps in your link is live. I have the app. Is no Google Maps but is not crap either.

PS: I am on 27.X , will not be moving to 28 for a while. Too many issues.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah, i have been using nextcloud for 4 years or so. Never had an actual breaking bug. 28.2. Nextcloud will simply not work anymore. It has 0 error messages in the log, everything will initialize, but I simply can't connect and log in to it. The log in screen does not show up.

Not only that, but when I leave it running now, it literally almost brings down my entire reverse proxy stack and I can't access anything from the outside world without a 30 second delay.

My 28.2 has literally nuked itself and everything around it. Since NC doesn't support downgrading, I am just fucked.

[-] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 1 points 8 months ago

I think the UX of Nextcloud is pretty good. I'll admit that it definitely takes some time to figure out how to host, and its PHP design can be a pain. But I still think it works pretty well.