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The US Copyright Office offers creative workers a powerful labor protective.

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[-] kalistia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

is excellent news! But, to be fair, why shouldn't everything be in the public domain? AI makes objects 'inspired' by everything it has 'ingested', but so do human creators on a smaller scale. Copyright almost always only benefits big profits and corporations. I think people should be able to make a decent living from their work and their ideas, but I'm not convinced that copyright really helps to achieve that.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ultimately, it's because the human creators need to eat and take longer to do what they do. If they are uniquely able to create something valued, then we want to afford them some protections so that they can keep doing that value.

For AI works, the effort is trivial (and frankly, the output is very much uninspired, but there are places for that). So there's no connection between human labor hours and the content, and therefore no reason we should prioritize protecting it.

On the stance of whether copyright helps achieve that, if you simply remove copyright without an alternate system, then the creators get nothing at all once a single copy of their work is made available for free. It was bad enough when works had to be printed/manufactured, in the digital context duplicates are perfect and essentially free. Straightforward enough case on perfect duplication, but then it gets rough on "derivative works". You include something created by another person but contribute your own thing and make it new, well, you clearly derived some value from the inspiring works but clearly also created your own value, and that's so subjective. Finally you have the terms of copyright, which seem crazy long, and could stand to be shortened.

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[-] Gaybees@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago

Wow this is huge. Let’s hope it holds up to years and years of legal threats from lobbyists

[-] illusoryMechanist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Does this mean we can, indeed, train AI on ChatGPT/other AI outputs?

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[-] tal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ehhhh. This isn't as exciting as you might think for, say, graphics. It's predicated on the fact that in the case, there's no human involvement.

Howell found that “courts have uniformly declined to recognize copyright in works created absent any human involvement,” citing cases where copyright protection was denied for celestial beings, a cultivated garden, and a monkey who took a selfie.

“Undoubtedly, we are approaching new frontiers in copyright as artists put AI in their toolbox to be used in the generation of new visual and other artistic works,” the judge wrote.

The rise of generative AI will “prompt challenging questions” about how much human input into an AI program is necessary to qualify for copyright protection, Howell said, as well as how to assess the originality of AI-generated art that comes from systems trained on existing copyrighted works.

But this case “is not nearly so complex” because Thaler admitted in his application that he played no role in creating the work, Howell said.

They're just gonna nail down the line judicially on how much human involvement is required and then they'll have a human do that much.

I mean, AI tools are gonna be just increasingly incorporated into tools for humans to use.

It might be significant for something like chatbot output, though.

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[-] tonytins@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Copyright is outrageously long, anyway. Seriously, who benefits from works after the creator is long dead? AI works won't ever replace a human's level of ingenuity, creativity and imagination, let alone at the spur of the moment. That being said, what it does interrupt based on what we ask from it can be fresh and aid in the development or adoption of ideas we may not have thought of before. Being in the public domain is the best outcome.

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