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[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 71 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Really resembles a bill of attainder, to me.

We'd ALL be much better off, and a similar outcome could be achieved, by putting to law strict data security and privacy rules. Plus it wouldn't inevitably be challenged on very reasonable 1A grounds. But that isn't as politically possible because so many -- especially conservatives -- don't believe in the liberty of privacy.

[-] harderian729@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

The entire point is to open up the market for an American company.

Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention to the world around them.

The data privacy issues will still exist. The 'engagement' issue will still exist. But it's okay when Americans screw over Americans.

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

That’s a big part of it too, but i think an even bigger part is the use of TikTok in counter culture. It is definitively the largest gathering of counter culture on the web. They fear losing control of the narrative. The intelligence agencies already control Meta and google. They have members on TikTok’s board. Social media is an avenue for consent manufacturing for our government, and any deviation from their manufactured line is unacceptable.

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[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I am not surprised that this is happening. What I am surprised is how many people have no idea how fucked up this law is or its implications, and are therefore defending it because "lawl le crinj china app xdxdxdxdddd"

Bro. This law literally bans the usage of VPNs to access foreign sites and services. Even China won't fuck with that, and they invented the concept of having a separate internet that abides by their censorship. VPNs are legal and common there. Also, like, this thing we are using? The Fediverse? Where half the servers are not in the US of A? Say goodbye to IT as well.

Y'all are cheering for the building of "The Great Firewall, but painted Red White and Blue" but don't even realise it because you think an app where some kids do dumb dances is literally the devil.

Anyway, enjoy your self-made dystopia, I'll be here in the third world laughing at your faces.

[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 21 points 8 months ago

Nothing of value would be lost.

[-] pete@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

But it would also be replaces by something else equily as shitty. The federal government doesn't move fast enough to block stuff like this by name.

I has to be something broad, and enforceable. Tic tok has already been doing its thing for like 5 years.

[-] hydroxide@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Instagram reels and youtube shorts is structured in the same way (from what I can see superficially), though I dont use anything but Lemmy/YouTube. Though the common complaint I hear is that the algorithm is significantly worse on alternatives.

Not sure how this meaningfully changes anything other than forcing people to use another app that also violates their privacy.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

I would be all okay with this move if the US is imposing equal data protection and privacy rules to all American companies as well.

[-] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well this ad placement is intereting

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 months ago

Go to settings -> Network&Internet -> Private DNS -> enter "dns.adguard.com"

Enjoy ad-less experience in most apps except Instagram, YouTube apps.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

It's actually dns.adguard-dns.com now. I have no idea why they changed it.

[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 8 months ago

Thank you thank you thank you. I know this is like beginners info for blocking ads, but using the internal web browser for Boost and what not made reading articles a fucking nightmare.

Now I can actually see that these articles have a story, and aren't just all about hot milfs in my area.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago

Just had to say thanks for the suggestion I had no idea that was a way to block out so many ads.

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[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Hey, another sync user!

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

His popularity will absolutely tank with the younger generation if he does

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

I don't think he cares about his popularity with people under 18

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 19 points 8 months ago

People under 18 are by no means the only demographic that's addicted to tiktok.

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[-] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago

Does he have any popularity with the younger generation? The kids I know are smart enough to realize their options are bad and worse.

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[-] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Do we have a Fediverse alternative ready to step in if they do?

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 30 points 8 months ago

Same problem as with YouTube alternatives, hosting video files is expensive.

[-] K3zi4@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

Instagram Reels is the exact same model as tiktok, but that's allowed to stay, because of murrica and freedom or something.

The only real concern with tiktok is the worry about data collection. But if they cared about that, then they'd pass laws on it. It's only because it's not a US company profiting from the data collection of their property. Sorry, I mean free citizens.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

even if we did, I don't think people would be interested in using a replacement without a recommendation algorithm that's powered by tracking every millisecond you spend in an app in order to tailor the content to your interests.

also, storing video is p r i c e y.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Pooh’s gonna be pissed.

[-] theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me 6 points 8 months ago
[-] hydroxide@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 months ago

I have never used tiktok but you're pro shutting down social media for what reason? What makes Tiktok more evil than every other social media?

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

One part of me feels this is overreach, but social media is doing as much harm as it is good. We need to rethink the internet.

Social media hasn't done any good in the last 20 years. It's been detrimental to society for a very long time.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

The only good thing it does is spread news that would otherwise be suppressed by local media and governments. The human-on-human interactions are mostly abusive. Sure, there are good people and good conversations… but they are drown in a sea of trolls and anger management issues.

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