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submitted 1 year ago by blashork@hexbear.net to c/unixporn@lemmy.ml

Meta post I've decided to make. I enjoyed the unixporn subreddit a lot when I used reddit more. I enjoy customizing my linux de as much as the next nerd.

But you definitely shouldn't use racist slang to refer to the process.

To be clear, I didn't know the origin of the term 'ricing' until fairly recently. I was chattimg with my friend and used it to describe my de setup. They informed me that apparently it's from car customization, and is a pejorative against generally asian men who customize their car to look like a racecar.

After learning this I was sad to realize just how engrained it is in linux de customization culture. I personally have stopped using the term, and I would ask everyone here stop as well.

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[-] Alfredolin@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

So you are saying, all this time, we have been ricists!?

[-] andrew1412@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is not a word made to be racist, but stolen to be one in the eyes of a few.

The mare fact that you stop using the term rice, because "it's racist" implies that you're being one, by saying the racists are right about using the term in a racial and derogatory way. Instead of using the word normally, as has always been here.

If tomorrow greetings becomes racist, because it's discovered that in their origins were racists the ones who greeted themselves, will you stop greeting people?

Im pretty tired of seeing this stupid propaganda spread everywere and everyone celebrating it.

You will never be morally superior. You really are not helping any one, you have no altruist intentions, you have no repercussion on reality. You are an attention seeker twisted by social media and social engineering into a mockery of a sane person's mind.

[-] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

A lot of you need your blood pressure checked

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

For sure. Whatever your position is on this topic, it's a good thing we talk about it and the discussion should be more civilized.

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[-] Integrate777@discuss.online 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For the sake of the American asian diaspora minorities again?

This reminds me of attacking those girls for wearing a kimono or cheongsam to a prom. The Japanese and Chinese living in Japan and China certainly don't have an issue. It's the Japanese/Chinese American minority community who has built their identity around it, and feels threatened by the use of their traditional clothing. Fine, the prom is in America, it's an American problem in an American space, the local diaspora have a say there.

Unixporn on lemmy.ml isn't American(or any one country) though, clearly there are a variety of people from every corner of the globe here. This place is positively cosmopolitan. I don't see a reason why the "rice" term still has to be protected despite being a global platform. Just like it's fine for any tourist to rent a kimono in Japan, it should be fine to use rice as a term here. Unless this platform were to officially become Amerian(or any other country like Fedd.it etc), this problem shouldn't exist. I'm an rice eating asian myself, I'll be glad if people were to associate rice with customization.

The Asian American community should keep in mind that the internet isn't always an American space by default. I don't think they should be gatekeeping everything Asian on a global platform.

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

this is anglophone forum and the origins of the word are rooted in racism

but by all means keep outing yourself

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[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 6 points 1 year ago

I don't understand where the problem arises exactly, there is no racist intent in its usage here, it's just a word, it's an empty container and we fill it with meaning. In this context it just means "customization", sure it's not a completely made up term and its origin is lowkey racist, but, as you stated yourself, not many know at all of that connotation, they go on to use it despite never meaning to use bad language on purpose, because it has simply acquired a different meaning, it was just the lingo they happened to find in the community.
There's plenty of words that had historically been bad and then became good, same the other way around. I believe that's the case here as well.

Even so, if an alternative word is proposed and favored, even just plain "customization" (which I feel would be better than replacing it with a lingo word, as it would make it easier for newcomers to understand what is being talked about more easily), I wouldn't be opposed, the main thing is to be able to convey the meaning, that's what that matters most in the end

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