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submitted 2 years ago by headroom@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I've been on Wayland for the past two years exclusively (Nvidia).

I thought it was okay for the most part but then I had to switch to an X session recently. The experience felt about the same. Out of curiosity, I played a couple of games and realized they worked much better. Steam doesn't go nuts either.

Made me think maybe people aren't actually adopting it that aggressively despite the constant coverage in the community. And that maybe I should just go back.

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[-] ProtonBadger@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

A year-ish, Plasma, Intel iGPU for Desktop and Nvidia offload for Steam. It's great.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Whenever Nobara moves to KDE 6, I'll probs switch over to Wayland. Likely sometime this year.

[-] Makka@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

It is already using plasma 6 since a few weeks back, or am I miss interpreting something?

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, it's been several weeks since I last updated, may not have noticed lol.

[-] Piece_Maker@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

I've been dailying it on my desktop for a couple of years now (I want to say since 2022 but I forget exactly... there was a Plasma release where a certain feature finally became realised on Wayland and I switched then). Been running on my laptop for much longer, where I use GNOME. It's been great, but I don't have any Nvidia hardware.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I've been using it for a few years now. Not really given me any issues so I don't have any reason to use X again, but my use case is pretty basic 🤷

[-] take6056@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

Been running Wayland for 5 years on my development laptop (sway, Intel GPU, blacklisted the nvidia gpu). At the start I've had a couple of issues, nothing too bad. Haven't had any issues for over 2 years. Switched to Linux on my gaming PC about a year ago, KDE plasma on Wayland but do most of my gaming from a steam gamescope session. Very happy overall with Wayland, glad it exists. Sharp text on a fractionally scaled display for reading code was just too compelling at the time and it only improved.

[-] heygooberman@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

I would like to, but I'm running Arch with Cinnamon, and that desktop environment only has an experimental version of Wayland implemented. I've tried it, and it's too buggy to be used as a daily driver.

[-] st3ph3n@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Same here, except on Mint. Once it becomes stable with Cinnamon I'll be happy to use it.

[-] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

No. I plan to switch when I replace my 3070 with an AMD chip.

[-] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I use Wayland on my laptop running fedora 39 kde spin and it mostly runs fine. When I browse gifs in discord the screen flashes white and I can't maximize jellyfin on connected TVs but other than that no major issues.

[-] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I don't use it because it makes blender run at like 5 fps for some reason.

[-] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 2 years ago

I daily drive wayland with nvidia and I play games modestly. I have Xorg installed as backup for when issues happen, but it's been pretty rare in the last couple months.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

I have for more than a year. I've never had a single problem, but I'm on an all AMD system.

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I couldn't get the trackpad working right on X (why tf is acceleration on by default?), tried switching to Wayland in the first few hours of using Linux, and haven't had significant issues since. At that point I had no reference on performance, so no way to tell if X would be better.

There's maybe one bug that causes an unrecoverable GPU hang when using certain applications, but that may have been fixed in the kernel already, and I just need to use something newer than 22.04 LTS.

[-] janAkali@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

I could switch tomorrow if I could do my current setup:

  • Tiling Window manager (sway?)
  • simple status bar to output text from a script with clickable applet icons (waybar?)
  • the way to show/hide windows on a button press - I have a script that I use to quickly toggle 3 dropdown terminal windows

Last time I tried Wayland in December, I had issues with waybar not supporting clicking tray applet icons. Also I've ported my dropdown terminals script to support sway - and it worked half the time, like, literally every second key press was ignored.

On one hand I have X session that currently has no downsides for me, on other - wayland that has no upsides. Tell me, why would I switch?

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[-] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I've been using Wayland since the end of last year, I haven't done any real benchmarking but games run about the same for me on either.

[-] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

About a year ago I moved to Hyprland & Wayfire for my NVIDIA & Intel boxes. Moved NVIDIA to Radeon a few months back and had mixed results.

Recently tried Plasma 6 for experimental HDR and am impressed.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, though "since when" depends on the machine. My last machine to switch over was one with an NVIDIA GPU a couple of months ago.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Since I mostly run Debian with KDE, I've been using it a lot since KWin is on its stable repo.

First time I really use it is on Gentoo, which exclusively runs Plasma. Since it's rolling-release, it didn't take too long to be available.

I've been moving this build from one computer to another, they all work fine. Currently it's on a Thinkpad W530. Got some problems with multi-monitor that never happen under X11. Thankfully after I replace the firmware with coreboot, and opted for dGPU only, I never encountered any issue.

Currently, what keeps me from fully ditching X11 on KDE is the buggy SDDM support.

On the other hand, I've been using Linux Mint on my work PC. As you may have known, neither Cinnamon and XFCE has it at the moment.

[-] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'll probably make the jump when Plasma 6.1 releases with their "real, fake session restore" functionality, was hoping that would make it in to Plasma 6, and I am daily driving Wayland on my laptop now, but I kinda need my programs (or at least file managers and terminal windows) to re-open the way they were between reboots.

Thanks to kscreen-doctor, I've been able to port most of my desktop scripts that I use for managing my multiple monitors to work on Wayland, and krdc/krfb have been a decent enough replacement for x11vnc or x2go for accessing the desktop on my home server/NAS remotely (I know, desktops on servers are considered sacrilege, but for me it's been useful too many times to get rid of at this point).

Where Wayland currently shines for me is VR, Steam VR works better, and more consistently on Plasma Wayland than X11 at this point, which is probably more of a Valve thing than a Wayland thing. When I first got my Index, X11 worked fine, but there have been times when Steam VR on Linux being "broken" has made the news on Phoronix/Gaming on Linux, but still worked fine on Plasma Wayland (which seems to be where Valve is doing most of their SteamVR Linux testing as of late).

As an end user, I do wish that the Wayland specification was organized better, because as an outsider, it seems a lot of the bickering that goes on has more to do with everyone having different end goals. I think if they would split out the different styles of window management to have their own sub-specs or extensions and then figure out what of that could be moved into the core after everyone has built what they need would be better than their current approach of compromising their way through every little decision that doesn't always make sense for every use case. Work together when it makes sense, but understand that there are times when that doesn't make sense, and sometimes you can't please every stick in the mud, and are going to have to do your own thing without them. I do get the appeal of doing things right the first time too though, even if it takes more time. But it seems like usability is always the thing that gets sacrificed when compromises are made.

[-] sxt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I use it with gnome on nixos without any problems AFAICT. Had the explicit sync issue with Nvidia initially but I ended up buying an rx6800 to use as the host GPU when I set up win11 with KVM. Been completely fine since.

[-] Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Used it for the last few years. X just doesn't work right with multiple monitors of different resolution.

[-] signofzeta@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve been using it ever since Ubuntu switched over. No major issues, though I have to launch Calibre (the ebook manager) via the command line with a special environment variable because the developer is anti-Wayland. I’m looking for alternatives.

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I tried Wayland many times in the past ~6 years, usually with Sway (but I tried most other compositors, other than KDE's), but I always came back to X11 (using cwm).

Around two months ago I started using river, and I think I'll stick with it. There are enough Wayland protocols which now exist (and are supported by river) that using a minimal compositor feels pretty similar to just using a window manager on X.

[-] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I use Wayland since I got a second monitor, since X can't handle mixed DPI. I'd use X otherwise, since global hotkeys work there

[-] Communist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Global hotkeys work in kde wayland and hyprland!

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

A couple years(ish) on intel-only laptops. I run it with KDE Plasma. I only think about it when I see a thread like this one.

For me it Just Works™. I recognize that being intel-only may be a contributing factor, and my certification of Just Works™ is not to imply dismissal of any problems others may be having. 🙂

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, since Fedora 21 when it switched by default.

It hasn't really caused game breaking issues for me, however it is nice that the few nit-picks have all been resolved.

I get the sense that the majority of people use it on Workstations, there is just a vocal minority that resists the change. There are so many academic and enterprise users just using distros in their default state Wayland and all.

[-] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I need full screen share and I think it isn't there for wayland. But the track pad support is better in wayland.

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