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A solid-state battery developer in China has unveiled a new cell that could help change the game for electric mobility....

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[-] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Cool.

We’ve had hundreds of these.

But can they mass produce it?

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You can buy a battery bank/portable solar storage solid state battery now, and Toyota has committed to 2025 release for their EVs, which in automotive terms, means it’s already being produced.

No affiliation, but this company made waves a few months ago with the first solid state battery for sale to consumers.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 1 points 6 months ago

Wow, it's finally happening? I guess decades of hearing about "THE NEXT REVOLUTIONARY BATTERY" and then seeing nothing has made me increasingly skeptical.

[-] graymess@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Wait, Toyota is actually ahead on something EV-related instead of trailing behind and sabotaging the field?

[-] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago
[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

By point of comparison, my wheelchair has a 20Ah battery and a 17 mile range.

A 120Ah battery would be a game changer even without electric cars.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 7 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it though: This is probably the third article I've read this year alone promising some sort of amazing solid state tech but they never seem to actually materialize as a real product you can use.

[-] pelotron@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago

I'm guessing they usually leave out the part where they don't know how to manufacture it at a cost anyone could afford.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Potentially exciting development. This is a game changer in a lot of ways if they succeed

However the article is fluff, very light on facts …

  • how has the metric become “x mile range car”, assuming some undefined car and everything remaining the same?
  • given a specific car with specific battery pack, how much lighter could it be with these batteries? How much less volume would the battery pack take up?
  • solid state batteries generally promise faster charge rate - why no mention?
  • solid state batteries generally promise no fires - that would be cool to mention if so
  • currently expected lifetime or charge cycle is critical info for how close to practicality this is. Didn’t the writer ask any questions? Was there a writer?
[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Nio is coming out with a 1000km semi-solid battery this month so it’s not as far away as many think.

They also just opened a showroom here in Amsterdam this week, with that ET7 in the window. I’ll wander in today and see what’s up.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago

Customers can also buy a car without a battery by picking a battery as a service subscription with a monthly payment. Soon, Nio-branded vehicles will also get one more battery option for long trips, which offers a capacity of 150 kWh. It will be available only via subscription.

No thanks.

[-] graymess@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What a weird business model. Who would spend all that money on a nonfunctional car and tie themselves down on a proprietary battery subscription? Why not just...lease a whole car?

Even more bizarre because the people who would want the highest capacity battery are probably the ones most committed to a long term purchase, not a month-to-month rental.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Could is the operative word here. These companies have every motive to exaggerate. So I'll trust it once it's independently tested and peer reviewed. Or once it's actually going that far.

That being said, there is a whole ton of exciting battery research going on, so huge improvements are entirely possible.

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