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It's the same as with Linux, GIMP, LibreOffice or OnlyOffice. Some people are so used to their routines that they expect everything to work the same and get easily pissed when not.

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[-] vtez44@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I think that for Lemmy and Linux the problem is actually in the people using it. Without people using it, they won't be many posts/good software support. Without the posts/support there won't be many users. It's not some UI being different, or anything else. It's the main issue. When you see lemmy.world frontpage (All, not Local), there are 15 threads about Reddit and Lemmy, 2 about Twitter limits and the rest is about tech. Meanwhile, on r/popular you have variety of communities, still mostly memes and videos but there are also other posts.

It's more about reddit that reddit is. You can't make it long-term with this type of content. On other instances it's more bearable, but it's still not enough to keep people here.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's a little different, because people tend to get pissed because of the context of their routines. If I am trying to do work for school or for a corp, I'm going to be extra irritated when my software fails and I have to relearn something on top of doing work I already don't want to do.

Lemmy is just for fun. I think people might be more forgiving.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 1 year ago

Complaints can be valuable user feedback. I'm sure the developers can see past the negativity and know that they can't make everyone happy. They can still use it to pick up ideas or prioritize what to do next etc. without taking it personally.

Yeah, they probably get a lot of requests and crazy mails, but that's part of the process even in professional development. At least in open source they're free to do what they want at any time, compared to professional work where they might be required to follow crazy ideas even if they don't want to.

[-] mihnt@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sometimes though it's major issues that turn people away. I've always loved the idea of Linux, but I've never been able to adopt it fully. I've tried multiple times and this current time is no different then before. It's always some major thing that's broken that no amount of research/troubleshooting that fixes it. At this current moment, my steam install won't download games to my secondary disks. No matter what I change. It's running mostly fine otherwise.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, its human nature. Things get better and people come around eventually. Kde plasma is way more continuous from windows 10 then windows 11 is anyway.

[-] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's because Microsoft stole so much from KDE ^^

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Oh really? I was unaware lol.

[-] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, the KDE twitter account even mocked Microsoft's for some of their latest 'innovations'.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Well, ultimately, I'm glad that something open source is wagging the dogs tail, I assumed it was the other way around.

[-] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Yes and no, it's mean that the creativity and innovation of people at KDE is taken without credit. But on the other hand it shows that their features are really great...

BTW they not only copied ideas but also KDE Plasma's slogan "Simple by default, powerful when needed."

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was reading about that. It's a shame about the credit, but hey, what do we expect.

[-] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Lemmy and jerboa are extremely polished compared to a lot of the free software I've used, albeit a lot less complex. FreeCAD is one that comes to mind whose UI and interaction actively fights you just to do simple things

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but freecad has also improved by leaps and bounds over the years.

[-] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure it has, but trying to use it still frustrating. For example, when creating constraints, if you don't explicitly select everything or nothing it pops up an error over what you're doing and plays an annoying sound. They at least improved it a bit since I last tried it and now you can select the tool and then the points and lines, but if you have anything selected at all but not everything (e.g. point onto object and you only have a point or the line) then it still throws the error instead of trying to interpret. Its extremely jarring when you're trying to do basic things and completely turns me off of using it. If it works with both all relevant objects selected, no objects selected, and can determine when an invalid number or types of objects are selected, then it stands to reason that it should be able to interpret what is missing and just let you select that, but instead it throws a tantrum.

Fusion 360 is so much easier to use but its a huge application, runs slow, and dies on complex parts. I also use it because it has more control schemes, which is what made it impossible for me to get used to Inventor. I find the elitism of expecting people to just memorize what order to click in to not have the application scream at you, or people saying to get a special mouse to use CAD or use the applications particular flavor of control scheme to be stupid.

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