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[-] matchphoenix@feddit.uk 46 points 2 years ago

If people need to rely on the church for food, the state has failed.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 years ago

"That's not a bug it's a feature." -- LDS

[-] UnfortunateTwist@beehaw.org 26 points 2 years ago

Utah and LDS

Pam: they're the same picture

[-] Hhffggshn@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

"now give us 10% of your income."

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago

If you think that isn't by design, you're a fool.

[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 15 points 2 years ago

I don't have an issue with the fact that the church decides whom they help.

But that the state has so little in the way of social security that they instead have to forward people to a church instead, that's crazy.

3rd world country.

[-] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago

The LDS essentially owns the state of Utah, this issue is by design

[-] Captain_Shakespeare@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

Agreed - working as intended, and it's not just LDS. I'm in FL and churches here have been opposing publicly funded safety nets for my whole life, in favor of voluntary, often church-led, donations.

[-] liv@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

They appear to have set it up that way on purpose.

A single mother of one here is eligible for $399 a month in state assistance, and only if she has a net income of $456 a month or less.

Utah doesn’t do more for those in need in part because a contingent of its lawmakers, the overwhelming majority of whom are Latter-day Saints themselves, assume the church is handling the poverty issue; they also are loath to raise taxes to do the state’s share, a review of Utah’s legislative history demonstrates.

[-] pbjamm@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

us$10k/year

I doubt there is anywhere in the US where that is an adequate amount to pay for food and shelter. That is monstrous.

[-] liv@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There was a time in my life where I got one meal a day for a few cents from charities.

On the weekends we had to sit through a religious sermon before they let us eat, and I will never forget how it made me feel to sit there for a full hour listening to this smug arrogant man lording it over us and telling us how he was so powerful he could materialise his body on other planets but he chooses not to because he is more enlightened than we are.

[-] Spacemanspliff@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago

So the system is working as intended.

[-] TheBurlapBandit@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

Did they make that church as evil looking as possible on purpose? Looks like the legion of fucking doom.

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