Few things to figure out that could be helpful:
What’s your GPU?
NVIDIA GeForce MX150 (Thinkpad t480)
What suspend modes does your laptop supposedly support, and then what modes does your kernel THINK it supports
Sleep mode, hibernation mode, wireless off (source). freeze mem disk (cat /sys/power/state)
I doubt it's related as systemctl suspend works as expected.
What kernel are you in?
6.1.0-20-amd64
What does dmesg show right after you wake the machine back up?
dmesg, cleared it before trying to suspend
I've tried resuming 50+ times while troubleshooting, and it only once did it correctly. Now I try to replicate the bug and it worked correctly 2/3 times.
I've tried resuming 50+ times while troubleshooting, and it only once did it correctly. Now I try to replicate the bug and it worked correctly 2/3 times
That's just the computers fucking with you. It's how it always happens 😉
Regarding the sleep modes, I was referring to the S* states. Run this:
dmesg | grep 'S3\|suspend'
That’s just the computers fucking with you. It’s how it always happens 😉
Oh I know, just complaining
sudo dmesg | grep -E "S3|suspend"
[ 7225.917778] PM: suspend entry (deep)
[ 7226.596293] printk: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)
[ 7230.132960] ACPI: PM: Preparing to enter system sleep state S3
[ 7230.178542] ACPI: PM: Waking up from system sleep state S3
[ 7233.500089] PM: suspend exit
cat /sys/power/mem_sleep gives me: s2idle [deep]
Tried systemctl suspend and then resume:
dmesg after a successful resume
sudo dmesg | grep -E "S3|suspend"
[ 9760.639020] PM: suspend entry (deep)
[ 9761.235526] printk: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)
[ 9764.716421] ACPI: PM: Preparing to enter system sleep state S3
[ 9764.764150] ACPI: PM: Waking up from system sleep state S3
[ 9767.889922] PM: suspend exit
The only thing that looks odd in there is the default in libgl, but otherwise looks okay. So it's probably not a compatibility problem.
How is your swap sized compared to your system memory?
I just tried starting the xfce power manager in i3 and using it to go to standby when i close the lid. It woke up 10 times in a row without an issue. It looks like it's a purely xfce issue.
Also, when it wakes up it turns on the display, but then it doesn't go black but instead turns it off. I was still able to reboot while it was off.
$ swapon -s
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/swap/swap file 38915068 0 -2
Memory: 2926MiB / 31859MiB
Since that bug seems related to the X server somehow, I wonder if your monitor is showing black or actually off/standby (as in backlight off)?
If it's the backlight, maybe it's related to DPMS (monitor power management), and you can jolt it back to life with something like
xset dpms force on
after waking up. Or maybe disable DPMS completely and see if that changes anything.
It would also be interesting to know if this problem also happens outside of XFCE. If you just use (say) openbox (which I don't think does any power management or DPMS stuff by itself), does that work?
I wonder if your monitor is showing black or actually off/standby (as in backlight off)?
It actually starts, and then turns off. I didn't notice it before you drew my attention.
The command doesn't do anything, but I was able to type sudo reboot and it rebooted.
It would also be interesting to know if this problem also happens outside of XFCE
I can't install anything new, but I just tried starting power manager in i3 and using it to go to standby when i close the lid. It woke up 10 times in a row without an issue. So it's most likely a purely xfce issue that's been around for like a decade in different forms.
It actually starts, and then turns off. I didn’t notice it before you drew my attention.
That does sound like DPMS ("vesa display power management signaling") shenanigans though.
Maybe you can disable XFCE's display power management stuff completely? Systemd's logind (/etc/systemd/logind.conf) can do (and does by default I think) suspend on lid-close without any window manager involvement at all, works fine with i3 here. So disabling XFCE's stuff probably "only" messes with your monitor not going standby after a while, and you can maybe use xset or xscreensaver and set this by hand (after making sure it's actually properly disabled in XFCE, so XFCE doesn't override that stuff).
Found this about how to stop xfce4-power-manager and disable DPMS:
xfce4-power-manager -q
xset -dpms
Try doing that and see if lid close works afterwards.
I found a different solution: trigger an xrandr config. I'm leaving automating it for tomorrow.
The funniest thing is that I was trying to help out some other lemmy user fix their own xrandr issues, and accidentally came across a thread mentioning it when I went back to fixing my own.
Thanks for the help anyways
OK glad you found some workaround!
I found it because you pointed out the monitor might be turning off. Changed search terms and found the recommendation in a Reddit thread. The full solution wasn't great though.
i suggest you try something with chvt or openvt for a workaround. like after resume chvt to tty1 and then back to whatever your GUI runs on.
Saw that recommended, but it doesn't work. It just goes back to black.
i wonder what happens if you send SIGSTOP to the Xserver before suspend, then SIGCONT after resume. I imagine it would be like a time jump and it doesn't notice it was suspended, but not sure at all.
I found a solution last night: execute an xrandr config. I'll update the post later when I automate it.
😲 that's cool. I use xrandr a lot in scripts for playing games with small text in lower resolution. It makes sense.
Be aware that you are having problems with legacy software being completely based off unmaintained XOrg.
It might just be a driver problem, but if XOrg is the problem, thats not solvable soon.
unmaintained XOrg
hmmmmmmm... It's just not introducing breaking changes all the time like wayland.
And I'd definitely not call xfce legacy as it's in active development, but its focus has always been on stability over introducing new features.
It is not likely to be XFCE specific.
Make sure you have properly configured swap space and its size is larger than RAM. Because this will be the easiest cause. Some people stated as much as twice the ram size.
There’s a wiki page on arch wiki trying to help with this issue. In short, prepare for a lot of work and good luck.
It is not likely to be XFCE specific.
It seems to be, or it's related to my xfce+I3 setup. I tried starting the xfce power manager in i3 and it woke up correctly 10 times in a row. And executing an xrandr config turns the monitor back on.
AFAIK swap is only used for hibernation. Suspend keeps ram (and a single core/thread?) powered, so it's not needed.
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