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[-] Aphelion@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Corn to ethanol is already energy negative, why are we going deeper into this fallacy?

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I wonder if it's some sort of rationale for keeping the corn subsidies while also framing it a a greener alternative to crude oil extraction.

Edit: After actually reading the article, yes this is the case. Apparently their proposed methods emit roughly 50% less emissions, which I think might be worth it depending on how much is expended to grow the corn and process the fuel. You could be right in the end though but if there are less emissions in general, it might be worth it.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

An actual renewable fuel instead of fossil fuels

[-] MtnPoo@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

So we're going to give food to planes instead of hungry people. does this guy know it's an election year?

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 months ago

We're actually giving about half the US corn crop to cars already. The other half goes to animals, with a rounding error going to people.

I also recommend reading the article: the policy makes it difficult to get a subsidy to convert corn into jet-a fuel

[-] MtnPoo@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

I saw the part about it being hard to get the subsidy. Sounds like it's happening anyway.

[-] Ooops@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago

Actually we give corn to animals you can then later eat. If we actually start eating what we instead inefficently feed into animal farming, we could feed twice as many people as exist and still have left overs for creating fuels.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Can we finally get rid of the leaded aviation gasoline while we're at it?

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Still boggles my mind people are flying around recreationally pumping thousands of tons of heavy metal pollution into the air.

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