So now they are pushing some new centralized mess that will take a decade to complete and have the same result as LN.

Or they can just increase the block size with about 10 minutes of effort, which should have been done 10 years ago. BTC has failed and continues to fail.

They have become experts at stalling progress to clear the way for CBDC's.

When people voiced this, there were told to “shut up shitcoiner”

I think any project with a core of dogmatism like this is going to be very vulnerable to subversion and attack