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Business says it doesn’t serve anyone who is armed

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[-] Nougat@kbin.social 238 points 1 year ago

Private business, police are not a protected class, the end.

[-] Wookie@artemis.camp 25 points 1 year ago
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[-] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social 187 points 1 year ago

Lol! "Bigoted and discriminatory"! As if they were born a cop, had no choice to be anything other that a cop, and could never be without a uniform or a weapon. Fuck 'em.

My partner was a charge nurse on a psych ward for 16 years. Many of her interactions with police were as follows:

POLICE: buzzes the desk
My Parnter: Yes?
P: This is officer so-and-so with the so-and-so police department. We have a warrant for the arrest of a patient on your ward. Let us in.
MP: Okay, but this is a secure ward and firearms are not allowed. Surrender your weapons at the security office and I'll grant you access to make your arrest when you return.
P: I'M NOT SURRENDERING MY WEAPON!
MP: Well, then can't enter this ward.
end of conversation

[-] LeftSaidFred@lemmynsfw.com 86 points 1 year ago

ACAB = Assigned Cop at Birth

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[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

They also have to check their guns when they go into places like prisons, so those guys are just idiots.

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

Yes, but that's to their friends; not people who should be obeying their instructions without question like the peasants they are.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 150 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"We ban firearms in this establishment."
"WE're cops!"
"Got a warrant? Otherwise, you're violating our rules and regulations and we ask you to leave."

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

Better yet, have them arrested for trespassing. LMAO

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

you can try.... I've actually been there. Sort of.

Used to work contract security. my client was next to a MLB ball field- their parking lot literally was next to the service entrance, so the various staff that weren't special (concessions, security, etc,) would park there. A lot of their ball game security are moonlighting cops or retired cops... they liked to tail gate after the game.... but the city would revoke the license for running a parking lot if we allowed alcohol.

Getting drunken cops to leave your property when the other cops tried to be like "what's the harm," etc is no good.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Fun story time... a couple of friends of mine were walking home after a night of drinking and some cops pull over and get out and say, "two white men in dark clothes just robbed the gas station down the road and you fit that description." One friend said, "you're two white men in dark clothes so you fit that description too. I'm going to have to make a citizen's arrest." My other friend said the cuffs got put on them at light speed. They got charged with public intoxication. We don't know if the two white men in dark clothes were ever caught.

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[-] 0110010001100010@kbin.social 144 points 1 year ago

something something gay wedding cake. Last I checked LEO isn't a protected class. And they aren't even denying LEO, just those that come in on-duty and are armed. So yeah, get fucked pigs.

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[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago

What are the odds that the police take this snub badly and do something petty and vindictive in return?

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 82 points 1 year ago

That Oregon bakery who refused to sell to a gay wedding ended up winning in the appeal, so if you can say “no gays” you can say “no ______”

[-] singron@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

They didn't actually win. It had the some procedural non-decision that the Colorado bakery case had (i.e. the regulator failed to be sufficiently neutral). They got fined again and that is being appealed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_v._Oregon_Bureau_of_Labor_and_Industries

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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

Police aren't a race, orientation or protected class. A cop can in fact remove his gun and uniform, it's not attached to his skin

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[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 year ago

This policy doesn't seem weird to me at all, but I'm Canadian. I've seen establishments that don't allow weapons on site. So except in emergency situations, police officers need to secure their weapon before they enter the store (I think they put them in the gun locker in the trunk of their car?).

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

If its legal for someone to hypothetically not create a wedding announcement website for gay people because she doesn't want to serve those kinds of people, then there should be nothing wrong with not wanting to serve armed cops.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-web-designer-refused-work-sex-weddings-rcna68629

Baking food and making coffee could be argued to be every bit as "creative" as a website can be if the lawyer is good enough.

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

One is outright discrimination based on sexual orientation. The other is simply a policy applied to all patrons.

It should absolutely be legal to say 'no shoes no service' or 'has gun no service' even if it was not legal to discriminate based on sexual orientation/race/gender/etc. They aren't at all the same thing.

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[-] LeatherRebel@leminal.space 33 points 1 year ago

cops arnt even people so dont see the prob at all

[-] ares35@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

odds on there being an 'incident' at that location in the near future, and the cops responding stop at dunkin' for coffee and a donut while on the way there....?

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

There are only two Dunkin Donuts in SF. Mainly because they are terrible donuts.

So, basically 0.

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[-] foggy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does this police chief have beef with the MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, and every other major sports organization?

None of them allow firearms on site unless you are on duty

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You might be interested to know that cops, judges, politicians, and all other government officials don't actually have Qualified Immunity according to the full text of section 1983 of the federal code. The SCOTUS wasn't handed the full text in 1982 when they heard Harlow V Fitzgerald. The text was changed illegally in 1874 by one guy when he copied the 1871 Congressional Record into the Federal Register.

Look up "16 crucial words that went missing from a landmark civil rights law" for more info.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html

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[-] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 year ago

Sure, they should be able to turn anyone away, no questions asked.

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