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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

The people in that region are supposed to ration tap water, so Tesla can waste it. It's really fucked up.

[-] MrIamsosmrt@feddit.de 11 points 6 months ago

According to leaked documents tesla actually uses less water than they are allowed to ~450, 000 m^3 vs 1,300,000 m^3. And in the same region there is an asparagus farm that uses double the amount of water that tesla uses.

Source (German) https://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article241833924/Wasserverbrauch-Produktion-Tesla-Interna-veroeffentlicht.html

And no, people don't have to ration their tap water because of tesla

[-] the_third@feddit.de 9 points 6 months ago

It's not. I don't like Tesla, but let's give this some context. This coal pit right around the corner is lowering the groundwater table for everyone in the region. to the tune of 50.000.000m^3 per year. A hundred times of what Tesla is allowed to and they are even exceeding this limit in practice.

Here's a translation of the wiki article section above:


Water balance

Lignite can only be mined dry. The groundwater around the open-cast mine must therefore be lowered to below the deepest mining level. Hundreds of pumps form several rings around the pits. The closer they are to the excavator, the deeper they have to draw.

The result of the pumping is a dewatering funnel that affects the groundwater far beyond the open-cast mine. The open-cast mine is located in the catchment areas of the Spree and the Lausitzer Neiße.

Before the start of mining, groundwater discharge generally came from the northern and southern plateaus in the direction of the Baruther Urstromtal, before turning west towards the Spreewald and east towards the Lausitzer Neiße. The natural course of the Malxe was completely interrupted during mining. With the mining-induced lowering of the groundwater level, the flow direction is reversed locally direction towards the active open-cast mine. At the end of 2021, Deutsche Umwelthilfe and the Green League filed an urgent appeal with the Cottbus Administrative Court against the main operating plan after they came to the conclusion that far more water that far more water was being pumped out of the opencast mine than was approved and permitted under water law. For example, for the year 2020 only 42 million cubic meters had been permitted. In reality, however, LEAG had pumped out a good 114 million cubic meters, almost almost three times the amount pumped out. From 2017 onwards, around 240 million cubic meters more water than permitted, which is particularly important in Brandenburg, where water is scarce. Overall, the operating plan approved by the approved by the mining authority could not be complied with without "massive violations of the applicable water law permit".

On March 16, 2022, the Cottbus Administrative Court subsequently ordered a halt to mining from May 15, 2022. Following an appeal by LEAG, the Berlin-Brandenburg Higher Administrative Court ruled on May 5, 2022 that mining could continue for the time being, as a halt would be associated with serious disadvantages for public interests.

[-] DrunkenPirate@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago

I don’t get it. For me it seems like „it’s not 100% the best way, so you have to stop it.“ Sure, a car-free, equal society that treats nature as family is the way to go. But why do they try to kill the first movers? Because Elon Musk is a weirdo? Why not stopping the coal diggers a few kilometers to the east? Or the chemical plants to the south first? That’s such a brain fuck.

https://www-nd--aktuell-de.translate.goog/artikel/1182025.disrupt-aktionstage-gegen-tesla-in-gruenheide-raus-aus-dem-system-auto.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[-] Lemmchen@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Instead of voting you down, people should explain why they disagreed with you. Because I also don't really get it. I know there's the problem of siphoning drinking water in the region, but besides that the Tesla fab seems better than every single combustion engine fab in Germany, but AFAIK there have never been any significant protests against these.

Edit:

More than 10,000 people work in the factory , so I can't say how they individually feel about the disruptive movement. But I know that the employees were very happy that the conditions at Tesla in the last few months were clarified. They hope that something will happen. No one should have to work in a place where life-threatening accidents happen all the time, where the ambulance comes every day and where accidents are not even reported. We are also committed to changing this.

So I guess the protests want to tackle working conditions there, too.

Edit 2:
Great, now I'm getting down voted too.

[-] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 7 points 6 months ago

there were protest against the vw project trinity factory which led to them cancelling the plans. they wanted to build evs there 🤷

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

The coal companies don't say mean words on Twitter, so clearly they are better than Tesla for the environment.

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