Haveno Reto is (mostly) live! (monero.town)

submitted 6 months ago by reto@monero.town to c/monero@monero.town

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In the last couple of hours we have laid out the groundwork for the very first live instance of Haveno called Reto.

We have set up multiple seednodes and have trusted arbitrators.

We expect to be able to provide simple instructions on how to join Reto within the next 24 hours, after which we will hopefully see the first trades happen!

Join our SimpleX group to stay updated:

https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=2-4&smp=smp%3A%2F%2FSkIkI6EPd2D63F4xFKfHk7I1UGZVNn6k1QWZ5rcyr6w%3D%40smp9.simplex.im%2FMplYm7uxopKyUOrKqnWySpXQIGxoJWYB%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-2%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEAs8PcRwnf_-H30yXfwV0MSbka9I_xBeVNr4vKJNoReBw%253D%26srv%3Djssqzccmrcws6bhmn77vgmhfjmhwlyr3u7puw4erkyoosywgl67slqqd.onion&data=%7B%22type%22%3A%22group%22%2C%22groupLinkId%22%3A%22YT2t__GnjpZ1W2MjJAz6Sw%3D%3D%22%7D

See you soon on Reto!

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[-] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

There are instances of Haveno? Isn't it p2p?

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 3 points 6 months ago

Yes, but the main developers did not want to risk getting arrested for running the network. So they just released the software and said to the community, here, have at it. So instead of one large network there can be several small networks and eventually I think it will turn into a meta client where the client can just view all networks at once and you can pick a trade on whichever network you wish and see who the arbitrators are and so on and which network it's from.

[-] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Thanks for explaining. Double-decentralized :)

[-] prancing389@monero.town 1 points 6 months ago

Can we make a Matrix or Session group to track this instead? Here's what a comparison of Session to SimpleX said: "To summarize – SimpleX is a broken and messy thing, but it is very cool." I don't use a smartphone very much and desktop apps that work well are few and far between. It seems like everyone is trying to drag me to their favorite messenger without providing any additional benefits in anonymity and security. I wouldn't mind if SimpleX had binary installers for more distro's, but that territory rarely gets covered adequately in early adoption.

[-] tusker@monero.town 2 points 6 months ago

SimpleX has an appimage package, works on all distro's.

[-] Krugtron9000@monero.town 1 points 6 months ago

It seems like everyone is trying to drag me to their favorite messenger

Yes, because people treat messenger choices as a popularity competition.

Look how many people I got to switch to crapware just because they wanted to chat with me! I must be super socially powerful! Woo hoo! Meanwhile, the technical consequences of this strategy are... predictable: crapware.

Opt out of all the noise and just stick to IRC.

[-] tusker@monero.town 1 points 6 months ago

I think the many competing messengers are a good thing. Makes it a lot harder for glowies to spy and gather data.

Simplex is not bad, encrypted and proxies through tor easily if you already have tor running.

[-] Krugtron9000@monero.town 1 points 6 months ago

I think the many competing messengers are a good thing.

If they were backward-compatible (with their predecessors) and interoperable, I would agree. But they absolutely aren't. The lack of backward compatibility in the chat/messenger space is abhorrent.