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[-] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago

Man what a wild ride ReiserFS has been. I remember when it was the mainline FS in a lot of Linux distros. Good on Hans to right some wrongs. Prison has done some good on him

[-] loops@beehaw.org 73 points 6 months ago

Hans credits his improved social and communication skills learned in prison among other details shared in the public letters.

I thought prisons were meant to cause more trauma and help ensure people never leave so as to increase profits?

[-] colourlesspony@pawb.social 57 points 6 months ago

That's only for minorities and poor people.

[-] Huschke@programming.dev 44 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And mainly in third world countries, like the US.

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[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago

Some prisons might be better than others, some people might be able to withstand the system within and work on themselves.

[-] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

He is locked in California, a fairly progressive and leftist state i think , I am not entirely certain all that therapy is a good thing, i think i watched a documentary saying that psychopaths only learn from therapy how to be better manipulators and i feel like he sounds like psychopath even now.

With that said if he gets out of prison i think he should be allowed to participate in FOSS (when someone reviews his contributions), i can't help but wonder if his reportedly unhinged behavior on the kernel mailing list was handled better (e.g. mandating he will go to therapy) the murder would not have happened.

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 8 points 6 months ago

The prisons he was in previously definitely are not the touchy-feely kind. These days he's in California Health Care Facility, which is geared toward prisoners with significant mental health problems (notably, multiple serial killers). So, therapy of some kind definitely makes sense. However, Reiser's been denied parole each and every time he's been up for it (next review in 2025), so it is unlikely that he's getting out.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago

I feel like it is impossible to know enough details to make any kind of conclusions. I do not think foss should check criminal records though.

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[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

i feel like he sounds like psychopath even now.

I think it's rash to judge the tone of his writing like that. It can be a struggle to identify and admit one's flaws, and it's certainly a struggle for most people of the modern era to write elegantly with only pen and a few sheets of paper.

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, most people experience prison in the way you described. There's always exceptions, and like someone else said it's in California. Not a left wing state but the closest you'll get in the US.

If the system was so great at rehabilitation the reoffender rate wouldn't be so insane.

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 6 months ago

I don’t think it’s an American prison.

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Edit: Excuse me, he's in California Health Care Facility, which is a state prison which is geared toward patients with long-term medical needs (acute chronic diseases, debilitating injuries) and acute mental health needs (which Reiser definitely fits the profile of). He was transferred out of San Quentin some years ago.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 52 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


While ReiserFS is obsolete and will eventually be dropped from the upstream Linux kernel in Linux 6.10 is one last ReiserFS change that was requested by former lead developer Hans Reiser.

ReiserFS lead developer and convicted murderer Hans Reiser a few months back wrote letters to be made public apologizing for his social mistakes and other commentary.

In his written communications he also made a last request for ReiserFS in the Linux kernel: "Assuming that the decision is to remove [ReiserFS] V3 from the kernel, I have just one request: that for one last release the README be edited to add Mikhail Gilula, Konstantin Shvachko, and Anatoly Pinchuk to the credits, and to delete anything in there I might have said about why they were not credited.

Hans credits his improved social and communication skills learned in prison among other details shared in the public letters.

Per the indirect request by Hans Reiser, SUSE's Jan Kara has now altered the ReiserFS README file with the changes going in today to the Linux 6.10 kernel.

The change landed today as part of the linux-fs merge to Linux 6.10.


The original article contains 203 words, the summary contains 187 words. Saved 8%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

That’s actually surprisingly wholesome. It’s always wonderful to see people really putting in the effort towards personal growth. It’s good for them, and it’s also good for everyone else.

[-] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

The guy had a friend who admitted to 8 murders and he himself murdered his wife who was the translator for a Russian mail order bride catalogue... Woah. Its hard to believe a person like that could contribute to open source.

[-] Vikthor@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago

You are discussing on a platform created by a man who praises people like Lenin & Castro. Richard Stallman resigned over some comments on Epstein victims. Free software is like that sometimes.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 36 points 6 months ago

Free software is like that sometimes.

Anything is like that. The inventors of a great many things weren't good people. Just because people do great things, doesn't mean they are great people. Nazi doctors found out a lot about the human body by torturing them and/or treating them inhumanely. Probably a lot was discovered during the torture of humans and ignoring human rights (which probably didn't exist at that time).

Closed source software isn't better. It's run by people who devalue their workers, other humans, and in fact the entire world except people like them.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 51 points 6 months ago

Nazi doctors found out a lot about the human body by torturing them and/or treating them inhumanely.

That is a myth. The documentation left behind by them had little to no scientific rigor, and basically nothing of value was gained from it. The situation was even worse on the Japanese side, where even the visiting nazis thought they were going too far and, again, nothing of value was gained.

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[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 13 points 6 months ago

A person like what? There's no connecting thread between morality, emotional maturity, and programming skills.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

Who is going to stop them. It’s not like there’s a gatekeeper.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 months ago

Huh. For some reason, I thought he died a while ago.

[-] sugartits@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago
[-] Peter1986C@lemmings.world 9 points 6 months ago

For the uninitiated: his wife was murdered by him.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I know... For some reason I thought he died in prison years ago, but I have no idea where I got that idea

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

whats the recommended method of dealing with old reiser partitions once kernel support gets removed?

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 10 points 6 months ago

Migrate them to a modern filesystem, presumably. ext4 is extremely reliable, btrfs is less proven but much more featureful with copy-on-write and snapshots.

This isn't any type of surprise, ResierFS was marked obsolete some time ago now.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

Btrfs is well supported and stable

[-] eveninghere@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, people have been saying btrfs to be untested for more than a decade by now.

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[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

i guess i'm asking how do i migrate them to newer filesystems once kernel support is removed. surely i'll still be able to modprobe it back in...

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

Use a kernel version that still has support to perform the copy before upgrading? If already upgraded, boot to the old kernel? Boot from a live iso that has support?

I mean, this isn't exactly a hard problem to solve...

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

I guess I gotta put an old Slackware cd in with that drawer full of reiser drives.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

The 6.10 kernel has not even been released yet. Support has not been removed yet. It does not have to be an “old” Slackware CD.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago

Migrate now before you lose your data

[-] boo_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Use an old kernel version (if yours doesn't still support it) and something like btrfs-convert to get a maintained filesystem instead. Works pretty well in my experience with converting other filesystems to btrfs.

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Ty!

I think I’m just gonna burn a Slackware cd and put it in the drawer with all the reiser disks.

[-] boo_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

I agree with the other commenter recommending to migrate as soon as possible while the kernel still does support, but that does seem like a workable strategy if you can't for the foreseeable future.

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