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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

many such cases. good to call it out, and needs to happen more often and consistently as toxicity is the #1 barrier to the “year of the Linux desktop” in my experience

edit: also https://krita.org/

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[-] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 1 points 5 months ago

Wow! I have been looking for gimp alternatives or specific ways of doing things on gimp, compared to photoshop and most answers have been very honest and helpful!

Even gimp development team are open for suggestions but won't consider them before releasing version 3 that should release 'very soon'

[-] ian@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago

Gimp isn't perfect. But neither is Photoshop. In fact Lightroom users grizzle that Photoshop is so much harder to use than Lightroom. It's a different animal.

I use Pinta or Paint.Net when I want a quick edit. But Gimp has the tools for serious editing. More tools, more hard to use.

Some Gimp things, yes! should be improved. And other things are being improved as we speak. And some things can be done on a photo much easier in Inkscape.

I hope the whiners donated to Gimp development? No? Then just please step back, and think for a bit. If thinking is too hard, then just take a deep breath.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It looks like this was asked in a GIMP forum, so I’m not really surprised at the backlash. It’s super rude to ask that in that forum. Like, they shouldn’t be rude back, but I understand why they were.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It looks like this was asked in a GIMP forum, [...] It’s super rude to ask that in that forum.

Why? Just because you're using a forum for a piece of software, presumably because you want to receive or offer help on using the software for the most part, doesn't mean you're obsessed with it and hate all other alternatives that exist.

It's software, not a religion. These people need some perspective.

Imagine being in a community where being asked about alternatives is considered extremely rude. What a weird group of cult-like obsessives that would be. Creepy o.O

Also regarding why one would ask GIMP users about alternatives, theoretically these would be the best people to ask for GIMP alternatives. They presumably know the software well, and have probably tried alternatives (because they're not obsessive weirdos that worship a single brand image their whole lives), and can give good answers on what alternatives exist and how they compare to GIMP in its current feature set.

They may even actively use multiple softwares on a regular basis. There's no law against using GIMP and one or two similar pieces of software that perhaps have slightly different features or are better at one thing vs another.

It's not rude to put a reasonable question about a piece of software and how it exists in the ecosystem to a group that knows a lot about that software. It isn't a sacred holy cult object of worship. It's just a program.

[-] FlickeringScreens@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Tux Paint does go crazy though

[-] alyth@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

here's my last opened tux paint "art" for you

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago

To be fair

  • GIMP is really good
  • GIMP is hella complex to use

For example there was a (now enshittified) tool on Android called "image attacher" or something, for making a long image from 2.

This is probably also pretty easy with some CLI tool.

I actually took the time to learn "how do I attach 2 images together" in GIMP.

Or "how do I create a textmarker".

And the stuff works, but its just very complex.

attach 2 images

  • Open 1 image
  • "open" "open as another layer" the second image
  • your canvas is as big as the first image. Guess how big it has to be when fitting them next to each other
  • know that there is a difference between "layer surface" and "canvas" for whatever reason
  • in the menubar, find the canvas options
  • find where to resize the canvas and make it bigger
  • click on the surface layer of the other image and move it so it fits where you want it
  • use "merge downwards" to make the 2 layer one. BE CAREFUL TO NOT USE ANY IMAGE PARTS
  • use the crop tool
  • crop the new combined images to the wanted size

This is sooo manual and seems very hacky. The difference between canvas and layer make no sense to me. The enlargement is "eyeballing". The cropping too. There is no snapping when placing next to each other. There is no "dynamically increase canvas size" option afafaik.

text marker / highlighter

Something with brush, make it bigger, yellow, reduce the opaqueness, change the paint mode to "only make darker"


GIMP is like using cat awk and tail to write an office document lol. It works but it is damn technical.

But if you know how to do it, you know how to do it.

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

it's accurate though.

The amount of PS users i see trying gimp for all of about 2 seconds and then shitting themselves when it isn't exactly the same as PS is funny to me.

There are important technological differences i suppose, but i rarely see people complain about that.

GIMP is a monster, as is PS. There is no getting around it.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Show me how to change 1 pixel in an image. I'd actually be truthfully thankful and will consider to try to use gimp again (last time I tried the mouse didn't position/choose the zoomed in pixels correctly).

Show me how to open an image, make a small modification, then:

(step 2) save it and close GIMP under 10 clicks.

They deliberately changed so you can't save your modified image? I mean WTF? You have to export it with all the popups as you overwrite, hold your breath, the image that you opened and want to save!!1!.

Then trying to nag you into saving it to some unknown unused bizarre gimp extension.

It's like they don't want people to switch. And it's such a shame as the soft is getting better and better all the time.

[-] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Then trying to nag you into saving it to some unknown unused bizarre gimp extension.

You mean saving a project file? The same way you'd save a PSD file in PS, so you can actually save all your layers and go back to make an edit? It's been a while since I've used Photoshop, but I'm pretty sure both GIMP and PS offer two different workflows of saving/exporting your work and they are just named differently and have different keybinds. I have no idea how you can act like you actually tried to use GIMP as something other than a drop-in replacement for PS, but then call the default GIMP project file format "unknown, unused and bizarre"...

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

No, I'm not talking about project files, they are fine, I'm talking about opening an image, do some basic stuff and saving it. Image editing.

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