Don't ask, just say you're starting a book club, the book you're reading, and where people can contact you/post about it. You'll get more engagement/response that way.
Seems like a cool book, btw, I'm downloading it now.
Do you want me to tag you when I finally start?
Sure! Can't hurt. I can't make any promises though, cause of the whole expectation-anxiety and letting people down thing, but if I'm around I will participate.
You still up for it?
Is it on now?
I might start soon...
I do not like ProleWiki, as is well-known, and am trying to create an alternative to ProleWiki.
For now, I'm trying to popularize books on my own regarding Autism.
Is there a specific reason for this? For an alternative?
If you don't like ProleWiki based on the fact that it is a "biased wiki"; how would making your own make it non-biased?
Is there a reasonable argument against ProleWiki?
I believe that ProleWiki shows favoritism toward other organizations while disregarding or defaming organizations like FRSO and CPUSA.
In addition, it needs a broader working-class focus.
The last part, could you elaborate more? It covers a lot of international movements and socialist history. I don't think it's focused towards the U.S at all; just that a lot of the common mythos about communism tends to come from the United States or the West in general. Do you feel it's not focusing enough on other nations or organizations?
Fair criticisms, but in the same sense; I think the leadership/upper echelons of CPUSA leadership might deserve some criticism themselves. Plenty of us understand more local branches are more serious nor willing to compromise with the Democrat Party. What exactly about their writings on FRSO do you not like?
I think you also should realize ProleWiki has only a small group of people working on it. There is threads discussing on development and writing for it. Have you ever participated in those?
It needs to show the CPUSA's leadership point-of-view since most CPUSA members support the leadership.
Also, the FRSO needs more attention from the Wiki.
Is there a source behind that claim? Or anything suggesting that? In experience, CPUSA tends to have salted regionals differing from the leadership and others on here have mentioned that as well.
I can agree with having their point of view, it helps to know what the other is thinking even if you disagree.
I do not have experience with FRSO.
We've never done that.
Most CPUSA members from what I've talked to support the leadership.
There is no proof that they dislike them.
It doesn't matter if you do or do not have experience with FRSO; you shouldn't just ignore them.
What? In my area CPUSA disavowed the Democrat line. I didn't say members disliked them, either; just that they disagreed on a few decisions the leadership made. When I say "salted" I don't mean they salted anyone; but people tend to be more radical at the grassroots level and have their own disagreements compared to the actual leaders of the party itself. Often from other parties or socialist ones.
I didn't say ignore FRSO either..just that I have no experience with them and I wouldn't speak on them if I had no experience.
Yeah, the CPUSA disavows the Democrat line in general.
"just that they disagreed on a few decisions the leadership made."
You didn't clarify that.
"but people tend to be more radical at the grassroots level and have their own disagreements compared to the actual leaders of the party itself. Often from other parties or socialist ones."
That's a generalization.
"I didn’t say ignore FRSO either…just that I have no experience with them and I wouldn’t speak on them if I had no experience."
Then get someone that knows about the FRSO to write about them; stop ignoring them in your ProleWiki.
I didn't clarify that, correct, misuse of words. You have a point there, my mistake.
Joe Sims condemned Hamas. On the thread itself, CPUSA members were laughable in the attempt to console people or even provide for an explanation or justification for the leadership decisions. https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4773761?scrollToComments=true Right there, you can see examples of what I talked about, in people being consoled that local leadership/organization tends to be more radical than the leadership. Another generalization, sure; but it's literally there for you to see and what other people's experiences are with CPUSA.
You're going to look me in the eye and tell me that the average communist agrees with that; that alone isn't a remarkable difference between "leadership" and a massive chunk of communists who don't compromise with Genocide or disavow the ones resisting it? Over what is one of the many important issues that we have and then aligning with the democrats like they did in the 80s to "vote away fascism!"? Come on.
That's...my experience. Generalization if you put it broadly over others but I didn't. I linked above to what I said earlier and other experiences with CPUSA that are similar. Perhaps, you being a member, can help me understand on why people SHOULD feel differently than from what I experienced than summarizing it as "well, that's a generalization" when I said it was MY experience that I didn't put over anyone else.
Also, I don't moderate, edit or control any levers or anything regarding ProleWiki. Did you know there was a suggestions thread/box for ProleWiki? I didn't see you there.
"Joe Sims condemned Hamas."
idc and you're not giving me a reason why I should stop caring about CPUSA's attempts at optics
"in the attempt to console people"
I don't care about other rival Marxist-Leninists think.
"You’re going to look me in the eye and tell me that the average communist agrees with that"
The average CPUSA member agrees with it. I don't care what Internet communists have to say about it. CPUSA has its own culture and politics, as does FRSO and PSL.
"That’s…my experience. Generalization if you put it broadly over others but I didn’t. I linked above to what I said earlier and other experiences with CPUSA that are similar. Perhaps, you being a member, can help me understand on why people SHOULD feel differently than from what I experienced than summarizing it as “well, that’s a generalization” when I said it was MY experience that I didn’t put over anyone else."
You are indeed generalizing. You're using a place that has a history of anti-CPUSA sentiment and hails from Reddit, which is largely influenced by the Maoist /r/communism subreddit, and then, from what I can tell, using that to say that most CPUSA members don't agree with the leadership or are "more radical." None of that means anything to me because it tells me nothing.
"I didn’t see you there."
They're anti-CPUSA and indifferent to other organizations that aren't PSL apparently (ex: FRSO) and will not listen to me.
Your tone has been rude to me so far, no offense. I mean you no ill will. I'll likely block, tbh.
Gotta love CPUSA chauvinism. God damn pesky Maoist internet communists! Talking about generalizations, aren't we? I must have zero experience and be a "rival Marxist" because I disagree with you. What a fucking joke.
Also, fun fact; I'm not from Reddit. I had history there; but was banned years ago. I found this community on my own. What about generalizations, again? Of course I've been rude to you. Condemning Hamas is settler bullshit. Combine that with towing the voting line, of course you have "rival Marxists".
So you have history on Reddit and admit it. Like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Also, yeah, I'm anti-Maoism. I follow Mao Zedong Thought, not Maoism.
I'm BIPOC, not a settler. Go away if you're going to be chauvinistic and rude toward me.
You really do love deflection like the rest of your party that you claim "like-mindedness" over. Multiple times I explained to you my own experiences while not denying anyone elses, provided sources and other experiences similar to mine from a thread entirely dedicated to your party's bullshit and in response you kick and scream like a toddler claiming Prolewiki, Reddit, this website and "third-pillars" convenient to your own generalizations while decrying false Marxists. No wonder your party is seen as a joke; you must be the jester?
I found this community on my own. Was banned from Reddit over two years ago before I knew what "chapo", hexbear or lemmygrad even was. So, in a GENERALIZATION, yes, I'm from Reddit. The crazy thing though, I was a communist before I discovered Reddit. Weird how that works. Bit different now, eh?
Also, chauvinism isn't anything you don't like.
Fucking pathetic. Shapiro would be proud at your demonstration of facts and logic against the false internet Marxists.
There is no justification for condemning resistance to genocide.
I will join you!
Thank you! How do you want to proceed? Do you have the book?
Not currently but can do by tomorrow. Currently reading Manufacturing Consent, how far through are you?
Not too far.
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