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Thousands of children could die after court backs campaign group over GM crop in Philippines, scientists warn

Scientists have warned that a court decision to block the growing of the genetically modified (GM) crop Golden Rice in the Philippines could have catastrophic consequences. Tens of thousands of children could die in the wake of the ruling, they argue.

The Philippines had become the first country – in 2021 – to approve the commercial cultivation of Golden Rice, which was developed to combat vitamin A deficiency, a major cause of disability and death among children in many parts of the world.

But campaigns by Greenpeace and local farmers last month persuaded the country’s court of appeal to overturn that approval and to revoke this. The groups had argued that Golden Rice had not been shown to be safe and the claim was backed by the court, a decision that was hailed as “a monumental win” by Greenpeace.

Many scientists, however, say there is no evidence that Golden Rice is in any way dangerous. More to the point, they argue that it is a lifesaver.

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[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 61 points 5 months ago

The argument against Golden Rice should have nothing to do with GMO and everything to do with monocultures.

Greenpeace is fucked in the head.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 months ago

That's not their argument though. Their argument is that despite the benevolent sub-$10k payment free licence, at the end of the day it's still a product that the independent farmers are beholden to. That, plus rice is windpollinating. So it's very easy for it to cross pollinate adjecent fields and potentially outperform heirloom species against the farmers' will.

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah... There's a bigger question too that is, why can't other foods containing Vitamin A be supplied to the starving people of the Philippines? There are so many sources.

Let's consider how fucked it is that even considering introducing this crop to the wild is necessary.

I've previously supported golden rice, but you've changed my mind. We should just be doing more to support developing nations directly. The world has sufficient abundance we shouldn't need to take these dangerous shortcuts. Not yet.

Try me when we're closer to Mad Max earth.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Don’t you think giving them the tools they need to improve things is better than making them dependent on consistent outside charity?

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[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

It's not exactly the end of the world to implement terminator seeds... The reason it hasn't been implemented is because it's not an issue. This is a non-issue that's getting blown out of proportion.

Farmers will opt to maximize profits given all else equal. The license is a cost of goods sold and gets factored in when farmers decide what to plant. Farmers aren't forced to plant golden rice.

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[-] efstajas@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm so fucking concerned about climate change... But I can't vote Green because of their stupid, anti-scientific stances on two issues: GMOs and nuclear power. For context, I'm in Germany, where there's very public hysteria about both. The general public still holds absurdly distorted and misinformed views, so none of the green-aligned parties are ballsy enough to hold positions on them that are in any way nuanced. It's super frustrating.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Both GMOs and nuclear can be used to mitigate climate change too... :(

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[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

This is fucking tragic. Golden rice hasn't been proven safe? It's fucking rice with a spliced gene to produce vitamin A. This is a life saver plain and simple. Monsanto is fucked for a whole host of reasons, but golden rice is not it. There has been study after study on it just to fucking prove that it's beta-carotene survived cooking.

When Greenpeace started opposing GMOs that could be patented, I was on board, but they just attack any GMO now.

[-] ThanksForAllTheFish@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 months ago

The GMO gene in Golden Rice is patented. It's just licensed for use for free in developing countries on small hold farms. A monoculture of golden rice would be less diverse than the current wide range of heritage rice varieties, and there could be over reliance on it which could case issues if there was a blight. Theres some concern that spread of the genes could catch unaware farmers with legal issues, but it's harder for rice genes to spread than most other crops, as they're usually self-pollinating. The risks dont seem to outweigh the benefits in this case, but it is more complex than it appears on the surface level. Greenpeace doesn't seem to be able to use scientific research to back its claims here, and is instead just staying true to it's anti-GMO message.

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[-] barryamelton@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago

The idea is to extinguish the other variants, get into a monoculture, and in the future have them completely at Monsanto's will. This product is patented. There's no need for patented grains here. They can be helped through many other means and produces.

[-] Lutra@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

proven. there's a list of new inventions that were proven safe in 1950. Do we think they were just idiots back then?

Also its about directing cash from the sale of 'Golden rice' far more than about having these folks afford good food.

https://grain.org/en/article/10-grains-of-delusion-golden-rice-seen-from-the-ground

I'm no expert but these folk are almost

While many doubt the ability of golden rice to eliminate vitamin A deficiency, the machinery is being set in motion to promote a GE strategy at the expense of more relevant approaches. The best chance of success in fighting vitamin A deficiency and malnutrition is to better use the inexpensive and nutritious foods already available, and in diversifying food production systems in the fields and in the household. The euphoria created by the Green Revolution greatly stifled research to develop and promote these efforts, and the introduction of golden rice will further compromise them. Golden rice is merely a marketing event. But international and national research agendas will be taken by it.

The promoters of golden rice say that they do not want to deprive the poor of the right to choose and the potential to benefit from golden rice. But the poor, and especially poor farmers, have long been deprived of the right to choose their means of production and survival. Golden rice is not going to change that, and nor will any other corporately-pushed GE crop. Hence, any further attempts at the commercial exploitation of hunger and malnutrition through the promotion of genetically modified foods should be strongly resisted.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 30 points 5 months ago

golden rice had not been shown to be safe

Has regular rice? What about standing in the sun has that been shown to be safe? Has breathing?

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This was the same reaction I had when the Covid vaccines were rolling out. "They haven't been proven to be 100% safe and effective!" OK. Sure, but you know what is guaranteed to be bad for you? Covid. There are two choices here, and there's a clear mitigation of harm with one option over the other.

It's shocking that we'd rather see children die of treatable vitamin deficiencies than the off-chance that the food 'might be unsafe'.

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[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 months ago

Breathing has a 100% death rate.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

The anti-science crowd ranks up another victory.

They have pretty successful killing nuclear power, secularism, vaccines, modern birth procedures, nitrogen fixation, and now GMOs. I guess AI is next.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

I guess AI is next.

We can hope.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

When your ideals are in direct opposition to the well being of people its time to rethink your ideals, not double down on them

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

No, I've been convinced that gmos are bad and so fuck any evidence and the opinion of experts, they are bad!

Also how dumb are conservatives for rejecting the opinion of experts during the pandemic? What a bunch of sheep!

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[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 18 points 5 months ago

Greenpeace have genetic purity fanatics?

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[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The right way to do it would be to outcross Golden Rice with local strains to transfer the beta carotene gene while preserving other traits that are already adapted to the local ecosystem, thereby maintaining biodiversity and allowing the rice to continue to coevolve with other local organisms. But that would threaten ~~Monsanto’s~~ corporate patents.

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

that would threaten Monsanto’s patents

Its the other cancer peddling shitheel this time. Syngenta owns the patent, making it completely justified for Greenpeace to prevent them from gaining control of the food supply, even if they have to use BS arguments about food safety to do so.

[-] BigDickEnergy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

Introgresion of the beta carotene-giving T-DNA locus into local varieties would take a decade before we can obtain a cultivar that resembles local varieties, and this is only if said local varieties are highly homozygous. If they are not, what you are suggesting is simply not possible with 2024 technology and I don't see it becoming possible soon. Such a delay would mean large numbers of children dying and many more suffering. The Monsanto boogeyman's profit desires are not relevant, unless you'd like to give them some credit for making the damn thing, and I'm not even sure they were involved? A company called Syngenta made Golden Rice 2, maybe you're referring to that?

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago

IP on crops is a legitimate problem. I didn't see anything about terminator seeds, but honestly wouldn't surprise me. Saving lives can all to be often at odds with making money. Plan probably is to take over the market and then ratchet up the price...

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[-] AnthropomorphicCat@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Being against GMOs is like wanting to ban electric cars because Elon Musk is a dickhead.

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[-] hash0772@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

Why would anybody, especially a global campaigning network, get their noses up in shit they don't have a fucking clue about, and then double down after people who understand that shit go against them. What the fuck, Greenpeace?

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 9 points 5 months ago

They actually made some pretty good arguments in this case. The economic losses incurred by contaminating heirloom crops outweighed the benefits which were marginally small compared to growing crops rich in vitamin A and having food programs to fight malnutrition at the root of the problem: financing.

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[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Nah, they're right. It will give American Biotech corps a strangle hold over seeds. The world grows more than enough food for everyone. Scarcity is not why people go hungry.

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