Are we going to see arch based immutable distros in the near future? (slrpnk.net)

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Hi there folks, I'm still learning about Linux and have yet to dip my toes properly in any arch based distro. Have for the moment fallen in love with the immutable distros based on Universal Blue project. However I do want to learn about what arch has to offer to and plan on installing default arch when I have time. But have been wondering why I haven't heard of any immutable distros from arch based distros yet.

So, am left wondering if there are talks within that Arch community of building immutable distros?

While writing this post I found a project called Arkane Linux, which seem to be very interesting. Does anyone have nay experience with it? Is there a specific reason why immutable wouldn't be a good idea when based on Arch?

Project: https://arkanelinux.org/

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[-] ulkesh@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

Honestly, I'd rather it didn't, or at least maintain the standard Arch as it is today. I get the appeal of immutable distros/installs, but they are just not for me. They feel like a lot more work, for not much benefit.

Also, given that Fedora atomic distros are the ones people seem to compare against, I don't like that flatpak is effectively required. I like flatpak and what it offers, I don't like that all apps I install must be flatpak, or that I have to go around that default in some way (when I tried one of the atomic spins, I kept running into apps that just didn't distribute as flatpak and it made things more difficult). I suppose this old dog doesn't want to deal with some new trick just to use his system like he always has with a simple pacman -S or apt install.

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[+] timewarp@lemmy.world -12 points 5 months ago

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[-] skilltheamps@feddit.de -1 points 5 months ago

No, just because it is reproducible doesn't mean you are able to (re)produce something that works. With something like fedora silverblue you know that this specific composition of packages and their versions has been tested, and that all the other users run this exact composition as well.

When you roll your own composition, where you install whatever stuff, you may be the one finding out that there's some conflict between package a version u.v.w and package b version x.y.z.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Unless you both use exactly the same config files.... Which is the point of nixos.... Everything is versions locked. If you have a working config you can give it to your buddy and build it and it'll work the same way

[-] skilltheamps@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago

If you have a working config, thats exactly the point. Before you built your config, you don't know. If you deploy silverblue, you know it will work beforehand because exactly this config, including /etc, has been tested upstream before. What you are to your buddy, Fedora Atomic is to me. The difference is, it is not just one person that tested some config they decided on on their single piece of hardware, it is the effort of a full blown distro team.

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