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[-] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 156 points 5 months ago

At this rate my owned outright copy of Adobe that requires no internet access, with hacks, will become a generational heirloom I can pass down to descendants with immersurable value.

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[-] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 128 points 5 months ago

Holy Shitballs:

Sam Santala

Jun 5

Also, hilarious that I can't even get ahold of your support chat to question this unless I agree to these terms beforehand.

Jun 5

I can't even uninstall Photoshop unless I agree to these terms?? Are you fucking kidding me??

Jun 5

Realising I also need to agree to the terms if I want to sign in and cancel my subscription

16h

Can someone there give me an email for someone who can cancel my subscription without having to sign in and agree to these new terms first?

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 57 points 5 months ago

Realising I also need to agree to the terms if I want to sign in and cancel my subscription

I'm pretty sure this is not legal in EU

[-] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

I think at that point I'd mail a certified letter and cancel whatever card it's on.

That probably wouldn't work but one can dream.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

I mean it probably would. Their only recourse would be to sue you.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

And if you have a decent credit card, and a record of your attempts to contact them and cancel your subscription, they’ll likely take your side if you back charge then block them from your card.

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[-] tabular@lemmy.world 74 points 5 months ago

Same choice as normal: whine about and then tolerate a change you don't want in proprietary software rather than spend time learning to use a software-freedom-respecting alternative.

"But my workflow".

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 35 points 5 months ago

Hey, a lot of people have deadlines and can’t just drop everything to spend a week learning if GIMP even meets their needs when Adobe is knocking their door down with this EULA change right the fuck now

And Adobe is counting on that. They knew this was bullshit and people would be made which is why the dropped it with (what seems like) zero warning

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

No hard feelings towards people who couldn't, or didn't, see this sort of thing coming.

[-] MalachaiConstant@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I saw this coming and switched to GIMP and Inkscape. It's been a pain but I've managed. I'm just the IT guy though, and I would be laughed out of the room if I suggested our marketing team consider making the same switch.

It's not a matter of seeing it coming. They just don't care.

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[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 71 points 5 months ago

The question I'd like to ask them is WHY they want to get involved in Content Moderation. They make a toolset, nothing more, so why do they care what someone is using the tools for? What could they possibly get out of this that makes it worth the time or expense?

[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago

I imagine it's because of the generative AI stuff. If they're using their servers to generate, they're going to be responsible for what it puts out, even if it's just responding to user prompts.

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[-] exanime@lemmy.today 30 points 5 months ago

Feeding some other crappy AI

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[-] art@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago

People complain now, but they'll renew their subscription. It's the same unhealthy relationship people have with Windows.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 48 points 5 months ago

It is my understanding a lot of people maintain their unhealthy relationship with Windows as a prerequisite for keeping their unhealthy relationship with Adobe.

To be fair, the FOSS community in this area has categorically failed. GIMP's mission statement is 1. be hateful to use and 2. be capable of editing photographs I guess. Inkscape can't support CMYK colorspaces so just forget it if there's an outside chance if it's going to be printed, Krita can't draw a circle, Pinta crashes every other thing...hell I wonder if Adobe pays the GIMP team to keep it unusable.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 21 points 5 months ago

GIMP's mission statement is 1. be hateful to use

It hurts to say but you're right. I was like "can't you remap the right mouse button to another tool? Everything in the context menu is in the Menu bar regardless" and they responded with "nope, design philosophy"

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

GIMP literally sucks on purpose. Anyone waiting around for GIMP to do what Blender did and suddenly become usable has missed the point.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

yep. I feel like FOSS projects are always made by code monkeys who have no design sensibilities and designers do not touch any of these. a lot of them are not only unusable but uninstallable by the majority of the intended user base. whenever i find something i want to use it's like:

—cool software. can i double click on an icon and have it ready to use?
—umm, don't be ridiculous, normie. you gotta self host it and use the command line to enter some arcane incantations obviously. alternatively you can use these other methods you've never heard of. if you need any help you can refer to their respective indecipherable documentation.
—ok I'll keep what i have until i find something that's made for regular human beings, thanks.

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[-] Aux@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago

Ok, time to notify our design team not to use any Adobe products anymore and notify the commercial team to stop paying for licences.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

What can you replace Adobe with? Serious question. I despise Adobe, but every alternative I've tried throughout the years either cannot do the job or ends up disappearing.

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[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago

Canceled my Adobe account in 2018 and they just keep on making my decision a better and better one. Thanks, Adobe!

[-] asbestos@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago
[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

I bought the Affinity Suite which has been great for me. Sadly they don't have a Linux version, which is what I'm moving to. Krita covers some other of Photoshop's features as well. And people who say Gimp is a Photoshop alternative are crazy. Gimp uses destructive editing which is clown level in image editing and makes it completely useless imo. But supposedly non-destructive editing is coming.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I really wish I didn't hate gimp but I very much do.

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago

Gee, yet another reason why mine is a Corel shop and we don't use Adobe for anything.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago

This is 100% because they are rolling out more AI features and they want the government to ban all open source competition because they aren't "safe".

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[-] PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Imagine getting banned from all of adobe just for drawing a dick with the brush tool in their expensive image editor.

[-] whoisthedoktor@lemmy.wtf 34 points 5 months ago

Those reasons being stealing people's work for AI garbage.

Fuck Photoshop. Use Gimp and/or Krita.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately, neither are good replacements for professional work.

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[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 5 months ago

Tell me you don't want money from NSFW artists without telling me.

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[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 31 points 5 months ago

Hard fucking pass.

[-] manucode@infosec.pub 21 points 5 months ago

Isn't Photoshop by a lot of big corporations. Why would they sign up to that? Or do they get an exemption that isn't available to private individuals?

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 months ago

Sufficiently large orgs probably will be eligible for exemptions under the theory that they are agreeing ahead of time.

But also? The Adobe suite are just leagues better than anything else in that space. Smaller companies with smaller contracts can get away with, frankly, lesser software. But at scale? You need stuff like the "Oh shit, we should stop calling it AI" plugins. And workflows matter a lot when the vast majority of your applicant pool have been using Adobe software for literally decades.

A decent number of the tech youtubers have done "We tried to not use Premier for one week" style videos. And they usually end up coming out with "I guess we could maybe make it work but it just isn't worth it"

Much like with "this is the year of gaming for linux", it is going to need massive amounts of grass roots effort to actually focus on UI/UX over "We don't need that because we are smarter" bullshit. And, eventually, it will be good enough for influencers/taste-makers to give it a chance.

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[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 20 points 5 months ago

If any large organizations want to make a large donation to Inkscape, GIMP, Krita and Blender that would be great.

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

I'll upload a shitton of nudes to adobe cloud and report them so a poor bloke has to review those

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[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 months ago

Wild. My old place we relied on this despite me urging us to use Figma/Sketch and Blender (amazing for 2D art). Naturally logistics factored into it as our clients relied on Adobe as well, but there were plenty of projects that didn’t need it.

We also had the dumbest guidelines to ensure no leaks. I would routinely get app requests refused despite the fact their source was right there on GitHub.

So now what are they gonna do? Because if they use Adobe, they can no longer ensure that a clients work won’t hit the net. May not seem like much for small indie projects but if we snagged the next GTA or Valorant, you bet that would attract some serious lookiloos.

Not sure if a client would find “it wasn’t us it was Adobe” all that comforting!

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[-] thefrankring@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

I recieved today an email from Affinity saying that their whole suite of softwares is 50% off.

I'm assuming more people will be migrating to either Affinity or FOSS.

I currently use FOSS but I also really love Affinity. Especially since it's a perpetual/lifetime license.

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