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No war but class war (midwest.social)
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[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So, not enough on its own, but voting (ground troops) working in the same direction in boring and steady fashion to accomplish the goal, enabled to overcome otherwise impossible blockages by massively influential but too-inconsistent-to-be-relied-upon-for-minute-to-minute-progress direct action (air support).

I 100% approve this message

(Actually, I would go a step further and say that unions make better units of coalition than do political parties made up of a professional politician class - that combines the best of both worlds, providing consistent progress within a democratic framework without nearly as much of a “neither of these assholes represent me” failure mode)

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

Agreed. Expecting politicians (especially in the US) to get a hold on corporate power and control it through legislative reform is a complete fallacy at this point. The only way out of the private capital hellscape is through direct, collective action.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago

I don't disagree, but saying "we just need to get rid of FPTP" does nothing.

If anything I think this meme gives too much valor to election reformists, because outside of this meme they are actively denying the more fundamental problem (which is that governance and capital have merged and without working class action even election reform is kind of meaningless).

Unions are 100% better units of coalition. A group of working class individuals coming together and using the threat of harm to capital is exactly the type of direct action that actually works.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 5 months ago

working class action even election reform is kind of meaningless

I mean without working class action, election reform is kind of impossible, as is a lot of other kinds of reform. It’s not something the politician class will ever come up with on their own and put up for a vote for “us” to then vote on, without prompting, for quite obvious reasons.

That’s why I quite like the meme. You can vote until your voting finger falls off and there are certain problems that won’t get fixed without something else coming in. But still, yes, even in a totally dire dire situation, that attitude of “imma vote against this thing that’s going to win, for as long as I have bullets, because fuck you that’s why” is 100% the right action to take in my view. (Coupled with calling for air support)

[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

t. colonizer

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