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CNN analysts immediately after the debate are saying the dems are pannicing.

lol, lmao, who could’ve seen this coming

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Well, this is hilarious. Neo-liberal propagandists and paid shills all over the Internet are literally panicking right now. And, yeah, the ultra-corrupt "Democratic" Party political machine trying to force us all to vote for a clearly senile old war criminal was obviously a lousy idea on their part.

Jill Stein and Cornel West need to ramp up their presidential campaigns. This year should be great for left-wing opposition candidates! :-)

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[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago

BetOnline is currently showing Biden at +300 to win, and Newsom at +700. That seems like an awfully small spread when one person is the presumptive democratic nominee and the other is not

[-] abc@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

Yeah PredictIt had Biden at $0.48/share for a 'Yes' share on Biden winning the election at 9pm, which has since dropped to $0.33/share and Newsom has risen from $0.05/share to $0.20/share in the same amount of time lmfao

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

I went all in on Trump a few weeks back on Predictit and while the future is bleak at least I'll have a hundred and fifty dollars

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[-] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This late game swapping horses will also add legitimacy to trump’s argument to delegitimize the election should he lose in November so it’s fucking win win for him. fucking liberals fumbling the bag as usual. This feels like October 2020 when the emails came up again but it’s fucking July! Glad liberals are malding RN free Palestine

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago

I hate to be a Debbie downer, but they'll just replace him with someone worse.

[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago

I mean they're all democrats. Literally none of them are good

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago

I'm voting Xi this election

(I'm not even in America but I'll do it anyway)

[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
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[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago

lol they're not going to replace him

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[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

Perusing through r/politics on reddit-logo ... Can't see the comments on all the articles about replacing him. But the mega thread comments are pure, uncut copium; libs are going to OD on this shit lmao!!!

[-] PaX@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

DNC leadership too ossified to replace him - then he dies right before the election lathe-of-heaven

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

By tomorrow how many articles like these will have been published?

This debate was a disastrous opening performance for Biden | Moira Donegan | The Guardian

It is vital to America that Democrats beat Trump. In the first presidential debate, Biden did not always seem like someone who can.

The writer's Bluesky post

https://subium.com/profile/moiradonegan.bsky.social/post/3kvximpskna2v

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Full text

A Bluesky post subheader is: "He must withdraw from the race."

President Biden, I’ve Seen Enough

By Nicholas Kristof

President Biden is a good man who capped a long career in public service with a successful presidential term. But I hope he reviews his debate performance Thursday evening and withdraws from the race, throwing the choice of a Democratic nominee to the convention in August.

One of the perils facing this country, I believe and Biden believes, is the risk of a victory by Donald Trump. And after the debate, it’s hard to avoid the feeling that Biden remaining in the race increases the likelihood that Trump will move into the White House in January.

Biden has never been a great debater, but his voice and manner didn’t put to rest the doubts about his age and effectiveness. Rather, he amplified them. I happened to chat today with a woman who is undecided about whom to vote for — she says she distrusts both Trump and Biden but will choose based on who will do better for the economy — and I bet that now she will be supporting Trump.

In some sense, this may be unfair. This was one debate. A candidate’s physical frailty, hoarse voice and rambling responses may not be good predictors of how that person will govern. But in this election, they probably are good predictors that the candidate will lose in November and not have a chance to govern again.

We see the world through narratives, and one of the narratives about Biden is that he is too old. His performance reinforced that narrative when he needed to shatter it. Biden, unable to puncture Trump’s repeated falsehoods, allowed a convicted felon to win the debate.

Biden can resolve this by withdrawing from the race. There isn’t time to hold new primaries, but he could throw the choice of a successor to the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. The Democratic Party has some prominent figures who I think would be in a good position to defeat Trump in November, among them Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio and Gina Raimondo, the secretary of commerce. And there are many others.

My phone has been blowing up with texts from people saying, as one put it: “Dear God. What are we going to do?” Another, also a fan of Biden, texted: “It’s imperative we change horses.” But Democrats have been reluctant to say this out loud and undermine Biden. So it will be up to Joe and Jill Biden to make this choice themselves.

This will be a wrenching choice. But, Mr. President, one way you can serve your country in 2024 is by announcing your retirement and calling on delegates to replace you, for that is the safest course for our nation.

[-] Storm@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

When the call is coming from inside the house, you know you're cooked.

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[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

Is it even possible to replace him with newsom at this point?

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