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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Motherfuckers all.

But do yourself a favor and read up on the Polish Resistance. Those were some seriously metal sons of bitches.

And for those of you who don't like reading history: Imagine watching 50-100 of your friends getting summarily executed every day, and it doesn't make you afraid to stop killing Nazis. It makes you even more emboldened, and that's exactly what you do. You exist to make them afraid to walk the streets.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Poles, historically, are seriously badass and do not deserve 1/10th of the jokes made about them

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago

I wish our schools did a better job teaching about resistance movements. Here in the US most people don't know about the Battle of Blair Mountain, for example, even though it was the largest armed resistance action here since the US Civil War.

But if you know what the BoBM is, you know why it isn't taught, for the same reason churches don't teach what the Bible says about usury.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 32 points 4 months ago
[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

Why would tankies be in shambles? They love genocide and helping fascists. This is basically a motivational poster for them.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 22 points 4 months ago

You are being disingenuous lol

You know they hate this picture and get bent out of shape over this historical fact.

Westoid tankie has to ignore many historical facts in order to make his or her "idealogy" work "logically"

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

You are being disingenuous lol

More like smarmy, but yes, not literal.

[-] yogurt@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago

The Soviet officer is Semyon Krivoshein, he's Jewish and not celebrating for multiple reasons. The Nazis occupied Brest when they weren't supposed to, Krivoshein got there and started negotiating to try to get them to leave. The Nazis were making a propaganda film out of this (which is where the picture comes from) so they wanted the Soviet army to have a parade with them. After an argument Krivoshein agreed that just him and some of his staff would stand there and watch the Nazis parade out of town in exchange for the Nazis leaving Polish prisoners they took in Brest.

Brest was 50% Jewish at this point, in Operation Barbarossa the Soviets defended for 6 days, Jewish Soviet officers were summarily shot by the Nazis, almost the entire Jewish population of Brest died in the Holocaust.

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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Conservatism has always been a plague of death. It is long overdue for a cure.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 6 points 4 months ago

Not sure how that picture prompted this comment...

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[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago

From left to right:

Mauritz von Wiktorin, Heinz Guderian and Semyon Krivoshein.

[-] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Reminder that Stalin was stupid enough to believe that Hitler was NOT stupid enough to renege on their little NAP over Poland. When Barbarossa rolled in, Stalin initially forbade his troops from fighting back because he thought it was a false flag ops by the Western Allies.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago

so how did the ussr go from this to marching into germany at the end and helping defeat the nazis? genuine question. was it just a case of "ok you're getting a little too close or comfort" or something else?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

Essentially, the Nazis and Soviets were allies of convenience. They both had a mutual interest in destroying the sovereignty and nationhood of all of Eastern Europe, but once that was out of the way, it was an issue of "Both sides want full control over the area, and neither side has acceptable goals to the other".

The Nazis eventually struck first in Operation Barbarossa; the Soviets didn't expect the Nazis to be ready to invade them for a few more years, so they were caught off guard, which is where a lot of the "NAZIS GREAT SOLDIERS 1 MILLION SOVIETS = 1 NAZI UBERMENSCH" bullshit comes from. The Soviets were scattered and disorganized, and had to hastily reconstruct a lot of their military doctrine around the fact that the Nazis had just occupied a big chunk of the Soviet Union's industrial equipment and population.

After a few months of chaos, the Nazis discovered that sucker-punching a powerhouse doesn't make you a champion boxer, and spent the next three years getting slowly brutalized into oblivion by the Soviet Army and the Nazis' own dumbass idea to invade.

[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I would assume the plan of the Soviet Union was to invade Nazi Germany as well, just after they had organized? Or was it just foolish trying to invade the SU at any stage, with the better plan was to hope the two blocks would just somehow get along.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Nazi Germany was always planning on invading the Soviets EVENTUALLY, and both sides were aware of that - the Soviets just thought the Nazi timetable was a bit later. As for the Soviets, Stalin exercised such total control over the Soviet government apparatus and was furtive about his plans even in the best of times, so it's hard to know what they were planning in the long-term - if anything - other than asserting their continued interest in dominating Eastern Europe.

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[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Yeah, Stalingrad was pretty close for comfort lol. It was an alliance of convenience and then Hitler invaded and continued to genocide across the USSR planning to completely wipe them out and resettle their land.

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

So, a bag of complete goose-stepping morons, as directed by a couple of servient, underling-fascists, are RIGHT on their way...!

Well then-- HURRAY!, is it not..?

[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

The soviets had no sense of fashion at all smh...

On a serious note, you'd think Belarus nowadays would be less keen on supporting Russia given their history.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You ask for an independent opinion from a country that mass protested the last bullshit elections before potato dictator with a joint support from russian siloviki beat, tortured, imprisoned and\or dissappeared thousands of people. Luka is behind the wheel, and he is playing his own game balancing between a neutral sovereign country and a region of russia, whatever fits him best at the moment. He's not asking what his* people want.

* 'His' is a weird word to put there, but I'd let it stay.

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