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[-] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 4 months ago

TL;DR they think he should look at electoral reform again

A huge wedge of the liberal voter base were disenfranchised when Trudeau promised electoral reform, practically guaranteed it, and then just announced they weren't going to do it but don't worry here's legal weed. Many of them were youth voting for the first time, and that betrayal set the tone. If he set it in motion before the election, is it possible they'd recapture at least some of that base? Sure. Would I vote for him? Not a chance.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 months ago

He needs to be pressured by the public if we want the liberals to be held accountable while preventing fascism in the mean time.

Here is a great resource if you would like to learn more about proportional representation.

https://www.fairvote.ca/

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Wow imagine if he just actually kept his campaign promise

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago

People can change.

40 Liberals have voted in favour of advancing Citizens’ Assembly, compared to 3 conservatives.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I guess I'm saying I wished he hadn't changed, and just did the thing he said he was going to do originally.

Harper wrote a fantastic essay on electoral reform before he was elected.

I'm not impressed by a liberal or conservative supporting reform when polling shows they'd benefit from the proposed change and then immediately forget it once they're elected w/ FPTP.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

I don't disagree, and I'm pissed that he didn't institute electoral reform, but not keeping campaign promises is about half of what politicians do. It would be nice to have something done about that, where politicians were fined, oh, 6 month's salary, for each platform promise they didn't keep, party and personal, but which politician would vote that in?

[-] mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In regards to campaign promises:

Trudeau (1050 promises)

Not yet rated (4%)
In progress (9%)
Kept (42%)
Partially kept (25%)
Broken (20%)

That's, actually not terrible.

[-] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Pffft, Trudeau would rather set himself on fire than enact electoral reform.

FPTP is too critical to Canadian neoliberalism in that it prevents coalitions (which would encourage compromise and diversity of opinion) and allows the major parties to force their will.

Edit: Do I have to explicitly state that neoliberalism is bad? Lol. Obviously electoral reform is needed - but there's clearly a vested interest among politicians in it not happening.

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