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You Know Who’s Available to Replace Joe Biden? Al Franken! (www.thedailybeast.com)

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He'd get my vote....

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 94 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Unfortunately Al Franken was sacrificed by leading democratic women on the wave of me too, on accusations staged by the Republicans.
Because Al Franken was one of the absolute most effective voices against the Republican madness.

Hello Gillibrand. Are you happy now? Did this boost your career like you hoped it would?

[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

That was ridiculous though, and media pressure shouldnt have forces his resignation.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

I 100% agree, Al Franken was amazing at framing things and putting them into perspective. The sacrifice of him was a huge misunderstanding and completely undeserved.

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago

Well, a staged photo with the subject in full knowledge is far, far worse than anything done since then, right? Right?? (this was what got him booted iirc)

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

The drumbeat from so-called feminists and the "liberal media" would have just kept on going until he did.

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[-] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 months ago

If we're going with a comedian, I'd sooner pick Jon Stewart. That is assuming he'd even want to do it.

[-] jeeva@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

For what it's worth, as it's not clear if you're already aware, but Al Franken was actually a pretty decent senator for ~9 years.

Jon has stuck his oar into political matters, but not at that level.

[-] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah and Al was good at it too before he got sac'ed for a dumb gag photo!

Jon is probably a bit more eloquent and has an impeccable moral compass. I've got a good feeling he's smart enough to know he doesn't know shit about most things but would during himself with people that do and would listen to them on those matters.

Also, he doesn't want to do it which makes me think he'd actually be good at it. He'd recognize it as a mostly shit job that needs to be done well and not as some sort of self-aggrandizing accomplishment after decades in politics. Something about true leaders not seeking power but having it thrust upon them I guess :>

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Jon / Al ticket would be amazing they are both smarter and kinder than any politican out there.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Bernie and AOC are very good too. There are probably others, USA has a lot of politicians. It's impossible to know but a fraction of them.

[-] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I like Bernie but we'd be running into the same cryptkeeper problems before long too.

AOC while I agree with her on most things doesn't really come off as particularly charismatic.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Love how you're being downvoted for pointing out that Bernie is older than either of the other 2 candidates

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I think the downvotes are aimed at the AOC commentary, which I too disagree with.

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[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In that respect it makes it easy then that 95% of them stride on the party line with no conviction of their own and never waver from what daddy DNC tells them to do, making them generic, forgettable, and unimportant.

It is the exact same for the right except with more outliers that try to be blatantly worse human beings than the others.

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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Al/Jon would work better. I think Franken would do better in the Oval Office while Jon would shine cracking the whip as President of the Senate. Might be able to get some work out of those bastards for a change.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Jon Stewart tearing into the Senate on a daily basis for four years would heal my soul

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I like Jon too much to make him president. Trying to get health care for 9/11 first responders aged him a lot.

[-] hypnoton@discuss.online 3 points 2 months ago

Oh fuck yes. I pick Jon over Al any day, just as I'd pick the either over Biden.

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[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

I mean if Al is going to take over this country anyway, might as well be this one. Or the weird one.

[-] Bricriu@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Is it time for an Al/Al ticket?

[-] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

Me? I’d vote for him. Liked what I saw while he was in congress. Still think it was bs how he was pushed out before any actual investigation was done, if memory serves me correctly.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

It was another case of Democrats following the rules, setting an example of decency only for Republicans to go "Hm neat! Anyway, here's a rapist for president"

[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

A comedian is perfect for today's sound bites and excerpts. Him clowning on trump up until the election would be perfect for the TV ratings these networks want. A witty, charismatic guy would win this

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Yeah but he pretended to grab some chick’s tits once.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago

Should have grab em by the pussy. /s

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Stop, I can only get so erect...

[-] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Let's go. Either him or AOC.

[-] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Al + AOC for veep

She is 35yo on Oct 13th and fully eligible

Though she is inexperienced in foreign policy, she's quick to get up to speed on all things it seems

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't want A.I. for president.

[-] hypnoton@discuss.online 7 points 2 months ago

Not a huge fan of the "SOPA debacle" Al Franken, but I'd take Franken over Biden a million times over.

[-] rbn@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

As a European, I never heard of this guy and it's probably not a perfect candidate either. But just based on what's written in the article it might indeed be a valid option to consider although personally I'd wish for a more progressive US leader.

Reading comments regarding the presidential election on social media, the thing you literally read the most is that people want someone younger that is neither Trump nor Biden. This guy is still old but apparantly around a decade younger. He's not Biden and not Trump and still somewhat popular across different generations. Might work out.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Al Franken was possibly the most effective voice against Republican extremism. But he was sacrificed on Republican staged offense on the height of the wave of the me too movement.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

He was also the only senator who truly understood the perils of big tech and was willing to stand up to them

https://www.wired.com/story/al-franken-just-gave-the-speech-big-tech-has-been-dreading/

[-] Muscle_Meteor@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

Lewis black!?... Oh nvm

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Ugh, I just got done listening to the portion in the audiobook for Maher's book where he goes over how the #metoo thing was only really a weapon used against Democrats and talks about Franken.

I'd love to see Franken run, but the depressing fact is that he was thrown under the bus for a ridiculous overreaction called the #metoo thing, and there will be many so-called feminists coming for him with guns blazing.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 12 points 2 months ago

#metoo was a needed movement, but in certain cases it definitely went too far. I think the "believe women" rhetoric makes sense in the contact of "sexual assault happens more than you think, we should stop completely ignoring or actively disbelieving women on impulse when they share their stories". But some people just took it as "why would any woman ever lie about this, they must be telling the complete and full truth in all circumstances" which is unfortunately how the Al Franken allegations went.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 9 points 2 months ago

Jesus why was the text so goddamn big

[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Probably markdown mistake. '#' is the syntax for Heading 1. '#metoo' movement.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago

Aaahhh. Yeah that'd probably do it.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Right, it's not like no woman would ever lie about such things and it's not like after 2017 women everywhere became somehow unable to lie about it. I think it's fair to believe it happens more than some believed before, and such claims deserve careful consideration. Moral panic is never good, however. Historically it's always led to bad outcomes and overreactions society as a whole tens to regret.

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