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You should be more like me, good guy NATO supporter, and support drawing out the war for as long as possible so as many innocent Ukrainians and Russians die as possible for the sake of Nazis, war profiteers, corrupt oligarchs and a line in the dirt.

Arming the far-right to defeat an opponent has always ended well. joker-laden

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[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

ummm this reeks of russian propaganda please delete this post you are doing the bidding of putler

Its true, Putin came to my house and told me to be against the War hes winning

[-] Finger@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

second-plane what if it was a double measure

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Mr Hexbear, a second measure has hit the Walter

[-] buh@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

I just hope both teams have fun

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

A toast to the troops, all troops. Both sides.

[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 47 points 1 year ago

Posadists be like "I support both sides"

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

pog-dolphin nuke So long and thanks for all the fish! nuke pseudorca

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

"Nuke yourself and everyone around you" - Matt Christman

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Which is why I fully support Virgil Texas' effort to petition the government of Mongolia to send Mangudai west to annex both Russia and Ukraine to end the bloodshed.

From the (Sajó) river to the sea (of Japan), Mongolia will rule thee.

[-] Bnova@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly why the Mongols have been biding their time, replenishing their horse stockpile. Their main appeal to end the war and subsume both countries? A horse for every citizen. 🐴

“A horse under every ass, a yurt over every head” - Mongolian FDR

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

no more half measures, temujin waltuh

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And, honestly, give Mongolia Afghanistan and Jerusalem so they have all the infinity stones of international conflict. Why? Because I'm a tankie

Fuck it, 3 km either side of the DMZ in Korea too

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Plus West Berlin

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

ground-pog we yearn to see the robber barons of the rus' pass between the fires and kowtow to the Great Khan

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

west loves forever wars but i don't think this will last as long as Afghanistan given Russia's strength.

[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 32 points 1 year ago

well unless we just start war against Russia directly, which isn't too unlikely I'm afraid

because I'm an off instance peasant just imagine an image with a bloodthirsty psycho wojak with a NATO helmet

[-] notceps@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

pit nuke

Best I can do in these trying times.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

yes im sure Biden is very excited for a nuclear war. so many people for the capitalists to sell goods to after one.

[-] showmustgo@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

The only thing Biden's excited for is his afternoon nap.

Wait... Am I Biden?

[-] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Right? They are failing so hard that, maybe another year, they will be fully removed from Ukraine! Слава Україні!

Then, hopefully, they get fast tracked into NATO!

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

keep dreaming

[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago
[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago
[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

How come members of hexbear respond with the same image that I upload but instead through the command?

Does it look different? I'm using Eternity and it looks the same, but maybe it looks different on the browser?

Here’s how it looks going through the web frontend on mobile:

[-] neo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Yours shows up as a normal inline image. Ours looks like an embedded emoji, as if it were a native feature of the website. Which I guess it pretty much is.

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Being anti war makes you a tankie. You can't be anti imperialist unless you support intervention in every country where bad guy lives

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's how I, a non-voting third party, voted for Trump, so it makes sense.

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

amerikkka-clap Withus or aginus

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I would never dream of denying the many crimes of America. But this time it's different and the people who did all those crimes are in fact telling the truth and just want to help.

[-] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is why we need to force libs to read Lenin as part of their re-education curriculum.

From the Lecture on “The Proletariat and the War”, October 1 (14), 1914:

For a Marxist clarifying the nature of the war is a necessary preliminary for deciding the question of his attitude to it. But for such a clarification it is essential, first and foremost, to establish the objective conditions and concrete circumstances of the war in question. It is necessary to consider the war in the historical environment in which it is taking place, only then can one determine one’s attitude to it. Otherwise, the resulting interpretation will be not materialist but eclectic.

Depending on the historical circumstances, the relationship of classes, etc., the attitude to war must be different at different times. It is absurd once and for all to renounce participation in war in principle. On the other hand, it is also absurd to divide wars into defensive and aggressive. In 1848, Marx hated Russia, because at that time democracy in Germany could not win out and develop, or unite the country into a single national whole, so long as the reactionary hand of backward Russia hung heavy over her.

In order to clarify one’s attitude to the present war, one must understand how it differs from previous wars, and what its peculiar features are.

He then went on to describe why WWI was an imperialist war unlike any other previous wars. I doubt libs will learn much from it though.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I find The Defeat of One’s Own Government in the Imperialist War to be pretty good too.

:::spoiler spoiler

To repudiate the defeat slogan means allowing one’s revolutionary ardour to deg----ate into an empty phrase, or sheer hypocrisy.

What is the substitute proposed for the defeat slogan? It is that of “neither victory nor defeat” (Semkovsky in Izvestia No. 2; also the entire Organising Committee in No. 1). This, however, is nothing but a paraphrase of the “defence of the fatherland” slogan. It means shifting the issue to the level of a war between governments (who, according to the content of this slogan, are to keep to their old stand, “retain their positions"), and not to the level of the struggle of the oppressed classes against their governments! It means justifying the chauvinism of all the imperialist nations, whose bourgeoisie are always ready to say—and do say to the people—that they are “only” fighting “against defeat”. “The significance of our August 4 vote was that we are not for war but against defeat," David, a leader of the opportunists, writes in his book. The Organising Committee, together with Bukvoyed and Trotsky, stand on fully the same ground as David when they defend the “neither-victory nor-defeat” slogan.

On closer examination, this slogan will be found to mean a “class truce”, the renunciation of the class struggle by the oppressed classes in all belligerent countries, since the class struggle is impossible without dealing blows at one’s “own” bourgeoisie, one’s “own” government, whereas dealing a blow at one’s own government in wartime is (for Bukvoyed’s information) high treason, means contributing to the defeat of one’s own country. Those who accept the “neither victory-nor-defeat” slogan can only be hypocritically in favour of the class struggle, of “disrupting the class truce”; in practice, such people are renouncing an independent proletarian policy because they subordinate the proletariat of all belligerent countries to the absolutely bourgeois task of safeguarding the imperialist governments against defeat. The only policy of actual, not verbal disruption of the “class truce”, of acceptance of the class struggle, is for the proletariat to take advantage of the difficulties experienced by its government and its bourgeoisie in order to overthrow them. This, however, cannot be achieved or striven for, without desiring the defeat of one’s own government and without contributing to that defeat.

When, before the war, the Italian Social-Democrats raised the question of a mass strike, the bourgeoisie replied, no doubt correctly from their own point of view, that this would be high treason, and that Social-Democrats would be dealt with as traitors. That is true, just as it is true that fraternisation in the trenches is high treason. Those who write against “high treason”, as Bukvoyed does, or against the “disintegration of Russia”, as Semkovsky does, are adopting the bourgeois, not the proletarian point of view. A proletarian cannot deal a class blow at his government or hold out (in fact) a hand to his brother, the proletarian of the “foreign” country which is at war with “our side”, without committing “high treason”, without contributing to the defeat, to the disintegration of his “own”, imperialist “Great” Power.

Whoever is in favour of the slogan of “neither victory nor defeat” is consciously or unconsciously a chauvinist; at best he is a conciliatory petty bourgeois but in any case he is an -enemy to proletarian policy, a partisan of the existing ·governments, of the present-day ruling classes.

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