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submitted 4 months ago by twinnie@feddit.uk to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I just can’t find a decent email client that looks like it’s from the last 20 years. Geary and Evolution both appear to be pretty modern but something about using Gmail with a Yubikey just doesn’t work and neither of them will connect to my account. Both on Fedora and OpenSUSE. Thunderbird works but it’s so old fashioned and Betterbird doesn’t look much better. What’s everyone else using?

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[-] Combateye@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Proton web and Android app

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[-] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 5 points 4 months ago

Def proton mail. I was using spark for my other accounts and it was pretty good. Then i got a new phone and never downloaded it agIn and i use the stock ios app.

[-] morgin@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

i fear your best bet really is just using thunderbird or a fork of it and messing with themes.

I did have the same reaction on my first instal of thunderbird but after customizing it a bit i’ve come to like it

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago

Thunderbird. I even use it as my RSS feed reader. The only problem it has is it does not have any tray icon to indicate new unread mails (I wrote my own program for this). They are working on a tray menu, if I'm not mistaken. I have 5 mail accounts from different providers. Backing up is easy, and on a new OS installation I just need to copy over the entire directory and its like I never left my system (same for Firefox).

[-] Frederic@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

I cannot believe I used xbiff in the 80s to know when I had a new email, and in 2024 the most well known and old thunderbird does not...

[-] palordrolap@kbin.run 5 points 4 months ago

xbiff was usually watching a file - your mailbox - on the mainframe, which would have been updated by the mail server daemon. Heck, it could be set to watch any file to see when it updated.

Basically, you could still use xbiff if you emulate that setup using your own local mail server as a proxy. (And you're using a GUI that supports it. No idea if Wayland does.)

[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

I remember that was an add-on for this.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

I used an addon in the past, but experienced problems at some points. Also could not find any addon that supported what I want to do, supporting RSS feeds as well or better yet, Unified Folders feature of Thunderbird. Maybe it was a configuration issue, but I ended up writing my own fast solution, that also works on commandline and can be added as a widget to any environment. Why not link it here :D https://github.com/thingsiplay/peepbird

[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

Fair enough.

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[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Protonmail web client and Android app tbh

For work it's obviously outlook

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[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Trying to get the hang of meli on my laptop & K-9 on (unGoogled) Android

[-] redxef@feddit.de 4 points 4 months ago

Evolution, Thunderbird and KMail, depending on the system. Though I've had only trouble with Thunderbird and gpg signing with a yubikey. The others just work.

On Android I'm using FairMail.

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[-] SeekPie@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Betterbird (Thunderbird fork) for pc, K-9 for phone.

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[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 4 points 4 months ago

Thunderbird and K-9 (which will soon be Thunderbird mobile). I'm not a Thunderbird Stan or anything, but I was running into issues with Claws, Seamonkey, and Fairmail

[-] captainnapalm83@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

I guess the question is, why do you need a client? I find most web interfaces to be sufficient, you can enable browser notifications, create an "app" so that it's in a stand-alone window, etc.

As another comment said, I just use the Proton web interface.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 4 points 4 months ago

I guess the question is, why do you need a client? I find most web interfaces to be sufficient

Clients like Thunderbird download the mails for a local copy. That means, you can a) read and search your mails offline, b) backup all mails. That's not all. Such a client also: c) allows a unified interface to all different mail accounts from different providers in one view, d) better integration into your system, such as tray icons for notifications.

Everyone does their thing, so not saying you are doing it wrong, just giving you reasons to use an offline mail client; as you asked why.

[-] captainnapalm83@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Those are all totally fair considerations, just not requirements in my workflow. I'm coming at it from a personal use case, where I don't need offline access to my personal email, and I only have one email account to check (my Gmail is forwarded to my Proton mail).

My question was more to lead OP down the requirements gathering path, to evaluate their actual needs and if a client is actually required or if it's more of a "nice to have".

Thanks for laying out some of those advantages to a client though. Every user has their own needs and if offline access, multiple accounts, consistent UI, etc. are desired, then a client is certainly a great option.

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[-] derin@lemmy.beru.co 3 points 4 months ago

Mailspring, best client I've used in a while.

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[-] cow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

aerc with mbsync and msmtp and neovim for composing

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[-] mrtomich@tldr.ar 3 points 4 months ago

Don't know if this has been said but you are not supposed to use the yubikey on your mail client. Google recommends you use an application password for email clients. As someone who has 5 yubikeys for different services I know this sounds unsafe but is the only way I've been able to use some of the mail programs with Google. The other option would be to enable another 2fa (maybe auth codes with Yubico Authenticator) and use that on the mail programs.

For Google I ended up using web client and fido2 (and another yubikey as backup and another as auth code generator) and my work requires Outlook but they also ask me to change passwords each month and input them on different platforms that don't support f2 and that breaks a few things for me so I opted for Yubico Auth and use my yubikey instead of Microsoft Authenticator or Google Authenticator.

[-] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

I use super boring Claws Mail for my personal email. I handle my contacts with Khard and calendars with Khal.

I don't use a Yubikey though.

[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm using Thunderbird.

On my work computers, I don't want the email to be stored locally since they back up the entire system to the cloud for retention and compliance purposes, so I'm using Roundcube (webmail app) hosted on the email server itself. I self-host my email server.

[-] techarmy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I’m using Evolution on Arch and Debian and works just fine for me.

[-] ProtonBadger@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

I'm lazy - just gmail pinned in a tab on my browser on my Linux desktop, the browser is always open anyway. Default mail client on iOS/iPadOS.

I've used Thunderbird in the past. The redesign was nice but it's still a bit cludgy to use somehow, compared to gmail web.

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[-] sylphio@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

mu4e+mbsync+msmtp

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[-] oKtosiTe@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

If anyone knows a client that can snooze mail on Proton and Gmail, I’d love to know about it. Until then I’m stuck using the web interfaces and their official phone apps.

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[-] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

I was using Thunderbird, but I have had a number of issues with it. Crashing seems to happen whether I use the Flatpak or install from AUR.

I have switched back to using web clients for my mail for the time being.

[-] lcb@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

I am using debias as os , and never had a problem with thunderbird, did you used recently? I am not against web, but i manage 5 emails so no way the web is a option for me. Also i start to use the rss from thunder and is cool.

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[-] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

I have never had thunderbird crash. Not questioning what you say but perhaps its sonsthing else? Did u try deleting thubderbird data and starting fresh ?

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[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago

Why do you install Thunderbird from the AUR? It's available on the official repository in Archlinux repos (and all distros based on). And updates are extremely quick. Can't say anything about the Flatpak version, because I never used it other than "native" installation. I am using it since over a decade and don't remember having crashes, maybe once in a while (1 time per year maybe fault of something else). I actually use Thunderbird with 5 accounts from different providers, plus use it as my RSS feed reader, because its stable for me.

I know saying "it works for me" won't help you, but maybe its an indication that something else is wrong. I would recommend to install it from official repository instead.

[-] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I may have misspoke, I use an AUR helper to install many programs and utilities, and am not at my computer to view the actual source. So I took a gamble and guessed AUR. My apologies.

It could have been other instability, as I mentioned in another comment I didn't really look too deep into it since it wasn't so important. And by no means am I blaming Thunderbird (regardless of source) for the issues I have had. It truly is a great email client.


Edit: It is from official source, not AUR. I have the same setup on my personal laptop. It came from Extras, and not AUR.

May have to investigate a bit. May have to figure out each directory to purge, do a pacman -Rnsu thunderbird

Then purge directories related, then reinstall.

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[-] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Icedove (Thunderbird) works well enough for me. Maybe the reason it's "old fashioned" is because it works well enough that it doesn't need to be changed that often.

In the proprietary software world we're used to UI's being redesigned on a regular basis for no user benefit.

[-] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

Tuta Mail for personal

Thunderbird/K-9 (mobile) for my work's gmail since the gmail website is garbage

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

I know it's not an answer you expect but I just use the official web client. I hate how there's 2+ sidebars and a lot of features I don't need in standalone clients. I just need inbox, spam, trash and probably search.

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