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Joe Biden faces 10th House Democrat asking him not to run (www.newsweek.com)

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A growing number of Democrats are calling on the president to drop out of the 2024 election.

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[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Has anyone noticed that the “gEnOciDe jOe” bots have mysteriously gone silent on the topic of genocide, and are now suddenly so concerned with his age and ability to conduct a speech?

It’s amazing! almost as if overnight- they all got a directive upgrade and now have found an easier wedge to use to divide voters.

If it’s not obvious by now what they’re up to- you’re either blind, or you’re one of them.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Bots who did not like Joe Biden still do not like Joe Biden, but now differently. That's obvious. However, people who did like Joe Biden are starting to ask questions after that debate. That is new.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And that’s the purpose, isn’t it? A bot worth their own weight will be at least slightly convincing enough to persuade at least a few people.

And they’re getting a good push from the media frenzy attacking him like he’s a sick shark.

But whatever keeps the power on, right? American democracy can implode as long as news media makes a fortune off of an old guy in a debate against a convicted rapist/felon that didn’t even answer one question honestly. I mean…

It’s a no brainer that the rapist did SO MUCH BETTER!

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

It's also possible that people saw the debate and started asking questions on their own. Not everything is the media, the candidate is a problem.

FWIW, I do not want Donald Trump to be president and I would just prefer a D candidate who is still mentally with it.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

We’re at the point where we take ANYTHING over Trump.

People are going to get hurt. I’ll take ineffective over a convicted rapist/felon any fucking day.

If people don’t like this, maybe they should may attention and do more than whine every four years.

[-] Coach@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I think the point is that we shouldn't have to vote for an ineffective leader to avoid a fascist convict. Out of 300 million people, we should be able to find at least one who can move the country in a positive direction.

And, for the record, I'm not a bot...just a millennial who's sick and tired of this bullshit.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

look man, I get it. But sadly the point is- we do have to.

What we “shouldn’t have to do” is irrelevant. Becasue that’s a daydream.

And the reason why is as I said, there’s a ton of people that only become politically active every four years. And all they do is whine and yell at everyone who’s trying to keep the ship afloat that they should “put more holes in it if they want to keep things going.”

Because not voting is exactly how things change. Note how history is rife with people staying home during events that changed history.

[-] Coach@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Becasue that’s a daydream.

It's an ideal. Which is exactly what we should be striving for. We shouldn't have to settle for an octogenarian, ineffective leader just because. The man is losing in every poll and, chances are, he'll end up costing us the election – worse; the country.

I understand why Democrats consistently settle for less than they're worth, but fuck man...time is short. We need to stop fucking settling. If not for us, for our kids and their kids. Because if we just keep settling for "good enough," we won't have anymore "daydreams"; we'll be living in a complete and total nightmare.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

It’s too late for ideals. Can you not see that? We have far too many people that slack-ass for four years at a time and then demand change?

It doesn’t work that way.

They want the benefits without having to do anything but whine for it- then they want to know how we got here. The system sucks. But whining about it and staring home during elections isn’t how it gets fixed.

But they know that.

So they’re demanding now that shit changes without the need to actually do the work. Essentially, democracy is being held hostage by people that won’t lift a finger to fix it.

Ideals would be nice if everyone payed attention and did their fair share so that we wouldn’t have to chose between the crypt keeper and a rapist-felon.

But that’s where we are now. So it’s either shit, or get of the pot so it can be fed to you.

I’d rather shit.

[-] Coach@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

I don't know, man. The way I see it, you (and those who are still blindly supporting the ghoul) are bigger whiners than anyone.

You see the cognitive decline, but you don't want a messy primary. So you close your eyes and tell everyone to keep voting for him. Worse; you attack those who want change - who want to "actually do the work."

And to say people aren't "doing their fair share" is preposterous. The DNC didn't primary Biden. How are we supposed to do something about him, when a tiny group of people selected our candidate for us. Your answer is to just "grin and bear it?"

Do you have any idea of what that does? It creates an electorate that is alienated and doesn't vote. Congrats...you've whined us right into a fascist state! Hope it was worth not upsetting the apple cart.

Seriously, what would the founders say about this approach? Brave men and women who risked their lives, watching the most spoiled group of whiners and social media junkies destroy the government they fought for through inaction. I'm sorry, but that's not who we are. We must take action, we must call for Biden (and Trump) to quit, and we must find two competent adults to run this race. And if we can't? Well, that tells us this little experiment is over.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fucking hilarious.

No man. I’m not attacking people who want change. Im attacking people who whine about wanting change but does nothing about it- then threatened to withhold their vote unless their demands are met. I think the founders would be fucking embarrassed to know that Americans turned out this way. And the men and women you so callously used as an argument would be fucking disgusted that you are willing to let a rapist/felon win.

Everyone should want change. And everyone should do what it takes to get things changed.

Not sit on their asses and let a tyrant take over just because they didn’t get their way. Which is who I’m attacking.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

You call me a bot constantly and during our most recent conversation I was still upset with Biden about the genocide you support.

Before you reply, remember that you also made a big deal about not reading anything I post, just like you made a big deal about ignoring me and blocking me, both of which turned out to be lies.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

I’m sorry, what?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Apology accepted.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

Fucking hilarious dude. I don’t acknowledge you as worthy of any respect whatsoever. But a troll must troll, so… have at it.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

I don’t acknowledge you as worthy of any respect whatsoever.

We've already established that I am not Netanyahu, yes.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

We have not gone silent, he's still the butcher of Palestine. And we've been talking about his mental issues before he got elected. But if you haven't noticed, and you haven't, none of these threads have been about Gaza or Palestine.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah… you’ve gone silent. You trolls used to do nothing but talk shit about Palestine and cry to everyone about it. Now, it’s the he’s old and should step down.

Not one of you suggest that Trump should step down because he’s old. Or even mentions that he lied on every answer he gave.

Nope.

Just…. BiDeN oLd!

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago

Instead of fighting people pointing out his deficiencies you should be fighting your party to get him out of there. The DNC refusing to do it will give us trump again. Democrats refusing to believe he's the problem will give us trump again.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Instead of whining only during elections, you should have been doing the work the past four years to help put up a better candidate.

And withholding your vote as a threat isn’t how change is made. Pick up a history book- see for yourself.

Then do better.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

It's not my party to be picking a better candidate. I don't vote for fascists or capitalists, but I suppose that's redundant.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

Ahh… so you think you’re supposed to sit around and let others make the world a better place for you?

Pathetic.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Despite what you may believe your party is only making things better for the wealthy.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Maybe I should do nothing at all about it and see how things turn out, right? Seems to be your suggestion… how’s that working out for ya so far?

Because from where I stand, it seems you’re getting Trump.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

You are getting trump by not demanding better of your politicians

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

I’m sure you don’t mind if I dismiss everything you say as the ramblings of presumed ignorance.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago

You're seeming a lot more bot-like than the other one, my dude..

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

I could not care less, your propagandized opinion means very little

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

Oh if mirrors could talk.

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 months ago

If you think there's an entity out there devoting significant resources to running a bot army on a website with 10,000 active users you're insane.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

wait… you think I’m using the word “bot” to mean actual bots and not mindless human beings…

Sweet summer child.

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

I think that because there's an alarming number of people who believe that. Maybe you should consider your word choice if you don't want to come across as some nut.

Regardless, it's pretty funny how arrogant you can be about your surface-level opinion.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

They're going to stop announcing this one at a time, soon it will be a block of 8 or 10 and Biden will be forced to do something.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The president has also publicly stated that he is staying in the 2024 race on multiple occasions since the debate, including writing in a letter to congressional Democrats on Monday that it was time for questions about his candidacy "to end" and that the party should shift its focus to defeating Trump.

New Jersey Congresswoman Mikie Sherrill on Tuesday released a statement in which she said it was imperative that Democrats do not allow Trump to return to the White House and that Biden should "declare that he won't run for reelection" to allow the party to pick a new nominee to take on the former president.

According to Politico, the call lasted two hours, as Democratic Representatives Jerry Nadler and Joe Morelle of New York, Adam Smith of Washington and Mark Takano of California "forcefully" pushed for Biden to leave the race.

Politico, which spoke to two people familiar with the private session, also reported that Representives Jim Himes of Connecticut, Zoe Lofgren of California, Don Beyer of Virginia and Rick Larsen of Washington voiced concerns about Biden's chances against Trump.

Congressman Mike Quigley of Illinois told MSNBC's Chris Hayes Friday evening that while he had a "hard time processing" talks of Biden stepping aside, he agrees the president should drop out of the race.

"President Biden has done enormous service to our country, but now is the time for him to follow in one of our founding father George Washington's footsteps and step aside to let new leaders rise up and run against Donald Trump," Moulton said.

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[+] NoSuchAgency@lemdro.id -21 points 4 months ago

Everyone knows he can't serve as President of the US. They admitted that Biden is only good between 10 and 4. That's six hours a day so that alone is enough to know he can't do the job. He refuses to step down though and that just shows that Biden is exactly what they've been accusing Trump of being, a dictator!

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Everyone doesn’t know that. Stop making shit up. The media is saying it because people like you are devouring it.

He’s FAR better than Trump’s 24/7 of uselessness. Look man, paint Biden any way you’d like. It doesn’t matter. He’s the only shot we have. And unless all the no voters wake up and see what’s about to happen-

You and them- can all expect things to get exponentially worse.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Idiotic take.

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