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J.D. Vance's former trans friend speaks out about how he turned hateful (www.lgbtqnation.com)

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 117 points 4 months ago

The Times also recounts how Vance’s ties to gay billionaire and right-wing megadonor Peter Thiel began during his time at Yale. He spent hours trying to track down contact information for Thiel after a talk Thiel had given at Yale. This led to the two getting in touch, eventually paving the way for Vance’s career to be funded.

Nooooo shit.

[-] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

‘Twas money that turned beauty into beast

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Peter Theil got Vance every job he’s had since, as personal favors to Theil. There’s even quotes as such, also saying Vance didn’t really work hard either

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 95 points 4 months ago

He articulated a feeling that had until then remained unformed: that I was obsessed with achievement in se — not as an end to something meaningful, but to win a social competition.

J.D Vance on Peter Thiel

Vance seems to be a vapid social climber with no real principles of his own. I'm not sure if that's better or worse than an outright true believer.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

It's better, because they can be convinced to change their opinions. For example, Vance called Donald Trump "America's Hitler" but since he saw being a never-Trump Republican didn't have a future, he switched to gobbling Trump's taint. He'd definitely switch to a pro-LGBT stance if he thinks he'd make more money doing so.

The true believers, on the other hand, are the dangerous ones. They'll refuse to cooperate or compromise on any issue, and when they are on the verge of losing they turn violent. Look at the J6 coup attempt- all the ones who incited it (aka, the ones grifting off of terrorist edging like Alex Jones, Ali Alexander, all the GOP Congress members) changed their tones real fucking quick once the crowd started breaking into the Capitol.

[-] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 4 months ago

He’d definitely switch to a pro-LGBT stance if he thinks he’d make more money doing so.

That doesn't make him an ally, or any less dangerous.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm in no uncertain terms saying fuck Vance and I feel sorry for his wife, but that's what you get when you suckle on the teat of the ultra racist party. I was only examining the question "In a vacuum, would you rather your opponent be a grifter or a true believer?"

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

I’m not saying I don’t agree with you, but sometimes it is difficult to understand this once we’ve seen Tucker grovel like he did and also knowing the remarks he’s made about Trump in the past.

That entire mindset is so hard for me to comprehend.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

His book is a gold mine if you're looking to portray him as a prick.

People talk about hard work all the time in places like Middletown. You can walk through a town where 30 percent of the young men work fewer than twenty hours a week and find not a single person aware of his own laziness.

[-] drdalek@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It's worse, as true believers tend to be more predictable

[-] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

At least when they didn't believe anything, they'll occasionally respond to pressure by caving instead of doubling down.

In Florida, the governor is going after any teacher who doesn't write him a letter saying 'you're a very special boy and I like you very much'

In West Virginia, State employees have gotten a raise almost every year since the 2018 teacher strike.

And I'm pretty sure a lot of the difference is that him Justice just likes his money and staying in office.

[-] Tilgare@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

Former trans friend, or trans former friend?

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

Adjective order is important.

[-] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 4 months ago

Make friends with trans
Throw said trans under the bus
Become trumps VP
Profit?

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

He was profiting from hate before he became TFG's toady. That's why he was chosen.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

This is what happens when Republicans closet their gayness.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Trump still has satelite dish attached to head, trump-npc confirmed.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

He did it for the money and the power?

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Well I mean he is rich and powerful. You don't get that way by being nice. Not in the real world.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Weird that a vulture capital guy would sell his friends and morals out for a bit of money and power. Wonder how much of the country he would happily sell off if trump dies /$

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Wonder what Vance had to do for Thiël to prove he was the man for his job

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

That’s surprising but not shocking. He seems the type. I hope he changes back, but I’m not holding my breath

[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Shocked Nicholas cage meme

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