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Imagine apartments built into what used to be department stores, (Oh, you're JC Penny 203? I'm at Sears 106). Get those old arcades up and running. Set up meal stations at the food court. Once people actually live there, stores will start to move back in.

If I'm unable to finish my life in my own home, that doesn't sound like a terrible option.

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[-] dbx12@programming.dev 10 points 3 months ago

Cool idea but lack of natural light could be an issue.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Hey, that's a benefit to some of us...

[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And walking down to the food court to use a bathroom may be, ahem, problematic for a retirement community.

There was a dead mall in a nearby city that was finally bulldozed to make way for apartments. It's taken decades and nowhere near habitable yet. Sort of a start though.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Nah. Vaporwave themed laser tag arenas. Let's go.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago

If my retirement home has Dance Dance Revolution, I may just have to get myself a new hip.

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If I could buy a large abandoned mall, I would absolutely love to turn it into an affordable community housing complex where shops can be set up alongside the housing units. There's definitely more than enough space in any mall I've ever been to in America where you could easily renovate and turn stores into either single unit housing or maybe 2-3 units (big stores like JCPenney or Sears not included in this count because you could turn those into tens upon tens of units, assuming they're as big as the ones at the mall near where I live).

[-] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 3 months ago

They've turned one mall in my city into a community college and office space, and the other is going strong and attracting new tenants

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

They tore down the big, stagnating mall a few minutes from my place years ago. It's still a big, empty lot.

This would have been a much better and surely most cost-effective solution. Instead, we're probably eventually gonna get another soulless office park in spite of dwindling demand.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 6 points 3 months ago

I didn't know this, on account of like not knowing a lot of land owners. But I did know one (for sure), and they had some property that unfortunately burnt down. It was more economically sound for them to keep the place an empty lot with a guard and a gate than to build something back up. I think that's naners. But also the whole situation was some kind of nanas.

I heard the same thing for landlords in the past. That having the property in any state is better than having to reinvest that cash into upkeep. So you don't particularly care about the renter's life quality, as much as you care that they keep floating money up to you and not complaining as things fall apart around them. And keeping people in crisis mode is a great way to counter any sort of counter-measures they can bring down on you. But also keeping public support organizations under-budget and overwhelmed is a solid way of sending the message "you're on your own."

I know it's kinda like a learned helplessness thing - but when everything around you is shit, and you're trying your best and just keep sinking - it's tough to fight assholes. But this is all er...my thoughts on the matter. I don't know anything definitively. Just figured they're banking that property until it's time to sell. And anything that goes into it - is money that cuts overall profits.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

It'll be just like "Dawn of the Dead"

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago

when internet still basically consisted of angelfire and geocities (yes, even before myspace), we used to go to the mall and pester the goth kids smoking cigarettes by the mall entrances who were there because they also had nothing else to do

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[-] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

they've already started turning them into rental units because that's apparently the entire American economy now

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

As is often mentioned, the plumbing situation makes this somewhat untenable.

But, as the world warms and outdoor recreation becomes impossible, I think they could be repurposed into indoor recreation centers, not that different from a regular mall, just less focused on shopping and more on fun and exercise.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

In Austin (when I lived there) the main mall finally closed down in the 2Ks. It was obvious that nobody was going to pick it up so the city turned it into an Austin Community College campus.

[-] Banichan@dormi.zone 5 points 3 months ago

Can't have residential buildings in an area zoned for commercial use.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

We got time to make it work.

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago
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[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

That is absolutely untrue. Dual zoning is very common, especially between commercial and high density residential. Some are triple zoned with light industrial as well.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Malls are actually doing fine.

Apparently they were already shutting down the too-many-malls that there were, but there are still a few hundred and they're doing well.

Specifically, for the reasons you're saying, because they have a food court and arcade stations and basically our community centers, more than just shopping outlets.

It looked like all the malls were dying out because there were simply too many for the American population, but now that number's kind of stabilized and slowly growing again.

But as for the disused ones that were built during the boom 20 years ago? sure.

They'd make good housing.

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[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

No God please no. I hated malls as a child, this would be some sort of fucked up psychological torture.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

That's ok, you can still go to Shady Pines.

[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

Imagine how much money you could make by ripping off retired people who cannot leave the mall anymore due to old age.

Not that I would endorse this. Combining retirement homes with retail sounds dangerous for the retired.

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