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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by frasassi@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

I am aware that upvoted posts make it to https://kbin.social/fav however that just doesn't work well as I already have 1,000+ pages in there. Moreover, that only registers upvoted posts and not comments. A workaround would be to just use boost, and only upvote when you want to "save" but that is just not conventional imho. The ability on /r to simply save a comment or a post is truly basic but effective.

@Ernest

EDIT: Relevant Codeberg issue

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[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Teon@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Hell yes!
Hope it happens.

[-] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I first started here, the reputation score was still calculated only on the boosts you had received and didn't take any upvotes you receive into account.

Within two weeks, ernest had that changed based on our feedback. I have full faith that he'll get a save function in place as well. Just give him some time; he said he was taking a break from the task list to focus on stability for a minute with the huge use growth happening right now.

Also, buy the man a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kbin

[-] RheingoldRiver@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

my fingers are twitching to close this kbin thread as duplicate haha

[-] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Hahaha, I say leave it up for the new people who are all thinking of the same list of requests to see

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 year ago

@Pamasich
@frasassi correct I created this ticket already. It's on the todo list.

[-] JowlesMcGee@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I actually do the opposite, I upvote things I like and boost stuff I want to save.

I agree though, I would appreciate a dedicated save feature (especially one that's more robust than reddit's)

[-] thegreekgeek@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes! Private rss with self posts only linking to the site, all others linking to the source please and thank you.

[-] skellener@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I also miss MultiReddits. Still, kbin shows a lot of promise. I think it will evolve and keep getting better. ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘

[-] Varyag@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah honestly I'd like for upvotes, boosts and saves to actually work in more conventional ways we're used to in other social media, instead of this weird "boost is actually an upvote but it's also a retweet" and "upvote does nothing but actually saves it to your profile"

[-] vaguerant@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

The recent updates have already made it work as you expect. Upvotes are upvotes. Boosts are still boosts but are also counted as being worth 2 votes.

[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Worth noting this is only for reputation.

The sorting algorithm still doesn't consider upvotes.

[-] Teppic@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit, my post here was wrong @Pamasich appears to be correct, having checked the "top" sort order of /all I have concluded that it is according to Boosts less Downvotes, upvotes do indeed seem to be ignored.

For the record and to maintain the coherence of the message chain below this one, my previous post:
This isn't true. Top and hot work according to [upvotes plus boostsx2 less downvotes] same as reputation. This is easily proved by sorting by top and noting sometimes they are not in order of most boosts.
Sorting was actually made to work this way long before reputation was changed to match.

[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I look at the top posts on /all/:

  1. Total 1958 | Upvotes 711 | Downvotes 43 | Boosts 645 | Link
  2. Total 1408 | Upvotes 608 | Downvotes 20 | Boosts 410 | Link
  3. Total 2062 | Upvotes 1274 | Downvotes 16 | Boosts 402 | Link
  4. Total 2198 | Upvotes 1568 | Downvotes 2 | Boosts 316 | Link

Formula for total I'm using is boosts * 2 + upvotes - downvotes.

Really doesn't look to me like that's what it uses.

Though, now that you mentioned it, I do notice that rarely the posts aren't in order of boosts. Maybe the sorting algorithm uses an entirely different formula? Boosts do seem to be mostly responsible though, judging by what I see on /all/.

[-] themadcodger@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

A long time ago, back at the beginning (was that a month ago now?) Ernest posted that the boost button moved a thread to the top of the Active list and added some points for its score on Hot.

[-] Teppic@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was mostly going by what Ernest posted on codeburg four weeks ago.
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/80
I'll admit that other than noting by eye

  1. It's not purely boosts; and
  2. It is mostly boosts (as you say)

I've not actually tried making a spreadsheet to check the algorithm (...yet!)

Edit: looking at /all perhaps for articles the number of comments is counted too somehow?

Edit2: If you formatted your table as a code snippet it would probably work since it would use a fixed-width font.

[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

instead of this weird "boost is actually an upvote but it's also a retweet"

The purpose of a boost/retweet is to increase the reach of content, so I think it's appropriate that on kbin it acts like how a reddit upvote would.

[-] Cyzaine@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I have this convoluted system where I boost something here, then log into my Mastodon account and bookmark it there...

It works as a stop gap so I don't lose things, but would DEFINITELY be better to not have to do that lol

[-] density@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I would like this and my 2 feature requests would be:

  • available as ?secure?ish? RSS feed

  • Do not limit to 200 items like reddit. If it must be done, notify the user so they can save older content

[-] tal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You can use your browser's bookmarks.

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