So there's a lot of doom and gloom here, but what do we actually do about it? How do we do it? ~Strawberry

I showed my friend all of the privacy problems with threads and his response was ‘I don’t care, they already have everything anyway’.

I told another friend and their response was ‘I don’t care if they have my data, it’s not much use to them and it doesn’t have any effect on me’

The world is hopeless.

It's more that the average person doesn't have a clear understanding of what the cost is of not protecting your privacy.

The Internet is basically a privacy economy, where you sell your privacy in return for free services, and to most people this feels like a very one sided exchange. They're giving away something that to them has no percieved value.

What privacy advocates need to get better at is actually explaining to people what the value of their privacy is.

My brother in law is like this. He keeps a yearly journal on google drive and his logic is that since he keeps it on google drive he doesn't care if google know everything about him or not. The convenience of having it heavily outweighs any privacy that he might have. Though I wonder if him growing up in an authoritarian country has something to do with it.

I am not an average person having worked in IT for a couple of decades now and I can tell you no, the average person is either not aware or doesn't care.

Even I, and my peers who are very aware, don't care

I think where privacy minded people fail to understand is that for most people we are not committing crimes or shady shit online therefore why care? A lot of us understand that if you type anything in a computer it is assumed to be on the public record either easily found or through a few hoops to get it.

If you want privacy write it down on paper or talk about it in person with your peers. Those are the most secure things.

Online and privacy are oxymorons. People need to understand this.

Privacy is abstract to people until something happens to make them realize how valuable it is. "I don't have anything to hide" is from people who don't feel threatened by anything, who've never been stalked or targeted.

People have a lot going on in their lives.

What do you mean when you say "privacy"? Threads isn't more or less private than using any other federated service-- they all share everything you do on them with everything else anyway. I guess federation doesn't share things like your email and IP address, so there is some privacy-related concerns, so maybe that's what you meant?

The big distinction between threads and, say, Mastodon is that Mastodon doesn't have an algorithm. The minor distinctions are more along the lines of it being open source and not controlled by a giant corporation. I am not surprised that most people don't care about (or maybe actively seek out) a service with an algorithm, let alone about the benefits of FOSS.

In the case of content creators they typically would not care as much about privacy from a social media platform. They are going to do anything that gives them a commercial/marketing edge, so why wouldn’t they try to be visible in the most popular place?

The problem isn't privacy. It's how they use the data they get from you to lie to you.

Yes, I think it is blatantly obvious how little many people care about their privacy and data. This is the result of an astonishing lack of knowledge and education on the consequences of giving away your data. They cannot imagine how many types of data are stored about them and analyzed to gain all sorts of insights into their life, thoughts, ideas, views and social life. Often people don't believe they have anything to hide which is always false because we are humans. The other is they underestimate or refuse to believe the the information which can be drawn from your data or the fact that ads and other forms of manipulation do in fact work on them.

how do you think we got here (gestures all around) in the first place

You could tell that from the number of users having a meta account

Normies are cancer that make EEE & surveillence possible