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It’s your data. Do you know what Big Tech is doing with it? Our tech columnist found Google, Meta and Microsoft are taking your conversations, photos or documents to teach their their AI.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Uh, get the fuck off of these services?

[-] njinx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'd assume your information is used for training if you send mail to a Gmail account

[-] geosoco@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

I mean yes, but this has been true for nearly 20 years at this point. Some of this comes back as useful features for everyone. Spam filtering, grammar checking, predictive text, maps route planning, face detection for all sorts of things. The same is true for many modern cars too, security cameras, etc. It all has to be trained on something and to collect more edge cases to improve.

If you care, you avoid their services.

[-] apis@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I feel like the things you list had more human input, as built, and more scope to take human feedback into account to amend any issues.

The latter could of course be similarly used to refine AI versions, but as cost-cutting is a major attraction, this seems unlikely to happen unless the AI is do poor that the errors cost too much otherwise.

As things stand, we now must guess what a customer service bot or search engine might understand, framing our terms to fit our beliefs about how massed groups might make the same enquiry. Relatively simple tech questions are met, not with the conversations initiated by people with similar queries, but with reams of links to material offering solutions to almost the opposite problem. I.e.: "how do I disable x on y?" must be asked "disable x y?", but you'll struggle to find any link which isn't "y is great, learn about the cool new x feature on y", x is great, enable x", "what to do if you cannot enable x". Maybe some bots telling you why wanting to disabling x is futile & wouldn't you like to learn how great x is? "Your life will suffer if you disable x. You won't be able to do things you never ever & would never want to do if you disable x" Which, for some things, there's some validity to some parts of that, but for disabling a bloatware messaging app? Not so much, and potentially just indicative of terrible architecture.

Perhaps I should be optimistic that AI will rapidly patch this type of issue, being able to return responses that have a good analysis of the query, but feel it is more likely that flawed AI will hijack the whole.

It has been a good run, but swathes of us have lost what were standard means of seeking information.

[-] geosoco@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

What standard means of seeking information did you lose? You can still visit a library or ask a friend?

I don't think people remember what using search was like before google. All of the problems you mentioned weren't even possible 25 years ago.

On other search engines you had to know specialized query languages.

This is all possible because google collects this data from users. They've been doing it forever, and it does have some value.

[-] apis@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I don't feel I've lost those means, and often prefer them still, but find even people of my generation who grew up without constant access to the internet fall to pieces at the prospect of looking in a book, a paper map or writing a letter, etc.

It is as if they forget the information persists without connectivity.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All I get in my Gmail is spam and confirmation codes for 2fa shit. Their AI is just gonna end up being really good at mimicking spam and hacking into accounts.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

I hope it likes spam.

[-] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

Google photos is a major treat, and nobody talks enough about

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

how does this work with universities and companies that use GMail/Outlook for their emails?

Terms of service for paid accounts say that the content isn’t scanned for any reason. So I guess the other way to avoid feeding the machine is to pay to operate the machine while it feeds on others…

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

inspired by iasip: pay the troll toll so u don’t get ur soul sucked, eat from its big bowl for free u might get ur hole ****

[-] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 7 points 1 year ago

The biggest thing you can do about it is self-host or purchase hosting from a third party that isn't likely to sell or use your data.

[-] peregus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well, it's not try that there's little you can do about it, there's a lot we can do: STOP USING THOSE SERVICES!

[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I hope it enjoys reading all the conspiracy newsletters I signed up to and can't be bothered stopping.

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