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A cold take. (feddit.ch)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by LemmyLaLibre@feddit.ch to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

People who don't care that they are being spied on/ having their data harvested by facebook, instagram, whatsapp, google, amazon, oracle etc... are the same ones who pirate without a vpn or i2p. I can't stand this "so what if they have my data?" attitude. You ask anyone if they would feel comfortable leaving their car unlocked in town, or the front door of their house open at night and theeen they suddenly care about privacy and security.

Piracy is a crime. It might be the most common and socially acceptable (right after not fully stopping at an empty stop street), but it is still technically illegal and the govt can go after you any time they want to.

Please please please do not go around advertising your cam-quality bootlegs.

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[-] supervent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

Caring is sharing, it is not a crime to share things unless there is an economic profit

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

i think(?) it still is. (not that that should matter :)

[-] supervent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not in my country. To be a crime it have to be an economic profit. You can share and download music/ tv shows/movies, but not sell it. Software is out. This is it because you pay in advance a tax when you buy an electronic device in case you download a thing.

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

oh based. thats how it should be i think

[-] 0Anon0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Canada is really good for piracy. The only thing that is illegal about piracy is the distribution. So as long as you don't seed without a VPN you will have no legal issues. But ISPs do seem to throttle my internet connection when ever I accidentally torrent without a VPN

[-] 0x4E4F@vlemmy.net 12 points 1 year ago

I say it's not a crime. In my eyes, it isn't 🤷. Doesn't mean I'm right, doesn't mean the law is on my side. It just means when I ask myself "Am I commiting a crime right now 🤔?" when pirating, I just don't feel any guilt at all... none, I sleep like a baby.

That being said, I protect myself as best as I can (financially wise as well). I just don't live in a country where these laws are actually enforced. There hasn't been a single piracy related trial here... ever. So, once again, I sleep like a baby... if I'm the first one, hey, so be it, someone's gotta burn first, right 🤷.

[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I say it's not a crime. In my eyes, it isn't 🤷. Doesn't mean I'm right, doesn't mean the law is on my side.

what do you think 'crime' means?

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

Well. In driving school we learned that leaving your car unlocked is illegal. It's a 15€ fine.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Wow. Certainly not a global law, thankfully

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True. However afaik it's because otherwise some stupid 5 yo kids can get into cars and roll over their siblings if they manage to release the parking brake. And because nobody wants to clean that up, they made it illegal to leave your car unlocked. I don't know if there are more reasons. I don't like too many regulations, but i kind of get this one.

[-] prayer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

"Think of the children" classic.

Personally I leave my car unlocked because the most valuable thing in there is the windows, and I don't want someone busting them open just to find nothing and foot me the bill.

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think so. These things actually happen all the time. However, you're free to not "think of the children".

There is fearmongering and actual problems. and i think this one is legitimate. At the end of the day a car is dangerous heavy machinery. At speed it can do all kinds of damage and kill several people at once. And even without being running, it's a 2t heavy metal thing. it can still easily crush people, your neighbour's dog and put dents into their car / home / mailbox. Or you can leave your toddler unattended and cook them in the sun. Idk kids and cars aren't the perfect match. And if you own or operate heavy machinery like a car, you're the one responsible to do the bare minimum to migitate for some of the risks.

Edit: I'll give you a pass if you live on the countryside and there aren't much people around. But leaving your stuff unlocked isn't the correct solution for theft. Maybe stop the thieves. Or give them something to eat or a job so they don't have to smash all those car windows. Idk. I think this excessive car theft is a thing in a few selected cities. In other places you wouldn't leave your backpack in your car and invite someone to break your windows, but other than that there is little chance of someone damaging an empty, locked car. ( I've locked my car every day for decades and had zero break in attempts )

[-] c0mplexx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

are the same ones who pirate without a vpn or i2p

you're goddamn right im not sure what i2p is tho

[-] SmallAlmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Here I am again, to introduce briefly the i2p protocol to those filthy pirates that haven't heard of it.

I2P is a protocol, a peer to peer one, where computers are nodes and create a secret internal internet, like tor but without clearnet access and ip addresses. One of the uses for it is torrenting, since there are no ip's or port forwarding involved.

[-] Fitzsimmons@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Using a commercial VPN does not "hide" your data, it makes it available to a different party. Sometimes this is still useful, like when your ISP has a monoply and is overtly hostile to what you're doing with your internet connection, or you just want a simple bypass for region blocking. But for a lot of people it's lateral move or maybe even a downgrade considering the added latency and that many VPN services are also quite shady.

[-] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Hey OP, how does your cold take adapt to countries like Croatia, in which piracy is legal?

[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't have a problem with them not using a VPN as long as they seed. I would personally use a seedbox

[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Please ignore BS in original post and advertize more of your cam-quality bootlegs. We need more links other than already known dimeadozen!

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