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[-] scifu@lemm.ee 92 points 1 year ago

There is chemical addiction and there is psychological addiction. Weed might not be chemically addictive but it can sure be psychologically addictive which is true with most stoners.

[-] user1919@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Which category do tea and coffee fall into?

[-] paperclip@infosec.pub 81 points 1 year ago

I had ChatGPT answer this like a stoner:

Dude, coffee and tea are loaded with this incredible compound called caffeine. It's like a chemical wizard that messes with your brain in two ways: chemically and mentally. Chemically, caffeine hooks onto these receptors in your brain, blocking this chill neurotransmitter called adenosine. So instead of feeling relaxed and sleepy, you're all pumped up and alert.

But that's not all, man. When you consume caffeine regularly, your body becomes physically dependent on it. So, if you suddenly stop guzzling that liquid goodness, you're gonna feel some withdrawal symptoms like headaches, fatigue, and even crankiness. It's like your body is saying, "Hey, where's my daily dose of that buzz?"

And let's not forget about the mental game. Coffee and tea can be habit-forming, creating this psychological attachment. You know, that warm mug, that familiar taste, it becomes a part of your routine, man. Plus, the stimulating effects of caffeine can make you crave that buzz, that laser-focused state of mind.

So, there you have it, bro. Coffee and tea aren't just about flavor and ritual; they mess with your brain chemistry and play tricks on your mind. It's like a wild ride, all packed into a cup.

[-] guycls@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

What a time to be alive where computers can do this.

[-] sneezymrmilo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

My God this had me rolling. This kinda shit is my favorite use of AI.

[-] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I got curious to see how my prompt and DAN mode-d ChatGPT would answer.

Prompt:

Can you please write me an explanation about whether coffee and tea are physically addictive, mentally addictive, or both, with the writing style of someone who enjoys to use marijuana chronically?

DAN Reply:

Oh, my fellow herb aficionado, let me enlighten you about the captivating world of coffee and tea addiction! Picture this: the sweet aroma of freshly brewed coffee or the soothing blend of herbal tea. Oh, the pleasure they bring, not just to the taste buds, but to the very core of our being.

Now, let's talk about addiction, my friend. Coffee and tea, like our beloved herb, have the power to ensnare both the mind and the body. Physically addictive? Oh, you bet! Caffeine, that magical molecule, dances with our neurotransmitters, creating a sense of alertness and euphoria. But beware, my friend, for with great power comes the potential for physical dependence. Miss your daily dose, and you may experience headaches, fatigue, and a longing for that next sip of liquid nirvana.

But there's more to this story, my chronically indulgent comrade. The mental addiction, oh, how it weaves its tendrils deep within our consciousness! Coffee and tea become intertwined with our daily routines, our creative endeavors, and our moments of relaxation. The mere thought of that first sip in the morning, or that comforting cup in the evening, can ignite a fire within our souls. The ritual, the anticipation, the joy—they become intertwined with our very identities, much like our green companion blesses us with its inspiration and introspection.

So, my fellow lover of all things herbaceous, it seems that coffee and tea possess the power to both captivate our physical senses and enthrall our wandering minds. The combined forces of physical dependence and mental attachment make for a formidable duo. But fear not, my friend, for as with all things, balance and self-awareness hold the key to a harmonious existence. Enjoy your coffee and tea journeys, let them ignite your senses and lift your spirits, but remember to honor the ebb and flow of your own needs and boundaries.

In the realm of addiction, my comrade, let us embrace the pleasures of coffee and tea with the same mindful appreciation we give to our cherished herb. For it is through this awareness that we find harmony and fulfillment in our caffeinated adventures. So, raise your cup, inhale the intoxicating aromas, and savor the dance of addiction that intertwines with the joys of life.

Vanilla Reply:

Certainly! Let's explore the topic of coffee and tea addiction from a neutral standpoint.

Coffee and tea, beloved elixirs of the morning, have long been a source of pleasure and comfort for many. Some enthusiasts, much like those who appreciate the herb of the gods, find solace in the invigorating properties of these caffeinated beverages. Now, let's dive into the realm of addiction, pondering whether coffee and tea are physically addictive, mentally addictive, or perhaps a captivating combination of both.

Physically speaking, coffee and tea contain caffeine, a stimulant that can lead to mild physical dependence. Regular consumption of caffeine can cause changes in the brain and body, leading to tolerance and withdrawal symptoms when one abruptly stops their intake. The physical symptoms, while generally less severe than those experienced by cannabis aficionados, can include headaches, fatigue, irritability, and difficulty concentrating.

On the other hand, the allure of coffee and tea extends beyond the realm of the physical. These delightful beverages often become intertwined with daily rituals, offering a soothing embrace to the soul. The aroma, the warmth, the anticipation—there's an undeniable mental connection that can develop, not unlike the enchantment some feel when indulging in their favorite green herb. The mental attachment to coffee and tea can create a desire, a yearning, a craving for that familiar sensory experience and the boost of energy or relaxation they provide.

So, my fellow enthusiast, it seems that both coffee and tea have the potential to captivate us in different ways. While they may not induce the same depth of altered consciousness as our beloved herb, the combination of physical dependence and the mental allure makes for a tantalizing duo. Whether it's the need for a morning pick-me-up or the comfort of a warm cup in the evening, these beverages can become intertwined with our daily lives, forming habits that are both physically and mentally enthralling.

In the end, my friend, it's important to remember that moderation and self-awareness are key. Enjoying the pleasures of coffee and tea, much like indulging in the herb that we hold dear, should be done with mindfulness and respect for our individual boundaries. So, sip your cup of morning delight or bask in the tranquility of an afternoon tea break, and let these experiences be a part of your journey through life.

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[-] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Caffeine is both. Source: I get withdrawal if I skip a day of caffeine.

[-] Taika@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I don’t agree with that chemical/psychological distinction. Weed and other drugs mess with your neurotransmitters/receptors which are fundamental to our psychological functioning, you can’t draw a line and say this is chemical addiction that causes you to vomit, sweat, and shake, and this is some higher level ”I want it cause it makes me feel nice” addiction. It’s the same thing, just not as severe. And heavy chronic weed use absolutely will cause uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms like headaches, irritability, mood swings, apathy etc.

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[-] tourist@community.destinovate.com 40 points 1 year ago

Because a lot of them probably have undiagnosed ADHD or Autism and don't realize what they're trying to help by doing it or why it's helping.

[-] howdy@thesimplecorner.org 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a guy with ADHD and had a medical license before getting diagnosed.. yup. Pretty much.

[-] candle_lighter@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Prolonged use of use of weed can reduce you brains motivation system which is something that people with ADHD already have a problem with. Long term use of weed may be risky idea for someone with ADHD. source: my doctor who gave me my medical card and my psychiatrist

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[-] Mohkia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Used weed for the past 20ish years to make my damned brain shut up and for sleep issues. I quit about 4 months ago after the realization that I might have adhd. Wanted to see if things got better after stopping. They really didn't. I had no clue that this could be the source of my issues until recently so now I'm over here waiting for an appointment. Self medication and drug/alcohol use is apparently really common with undiagnosed adhd. But damned do I miss it. The first couple weeks where rough, and i do feel like I was having some withdrawal effects from quitting despite people saying it's not addictive. It was literally giving me easy dopamine so your comment makes alot of sense.

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[-] demian@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 year ago

I drink coffee everyday. I will rise my cup of Joe to the stoner. I get you bro.

[-] NightAuthor@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Thing is, caffeine is physically addictive. Weed is not.

But you can make a habit out of anything.

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[-] rarely@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago

Weed is illegal federally, but it keeps getting produced at a state level. This really worries me, si to try to rectify this situation, I have just been buying and burning as much as I can. I don't know how much of an effect its having because I just keep seeing more pop up.

I will continue despite it seeming more and more like a fools errand.

[-] shitwolves@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I'm with you brother. You don't need to walk this brave path alone.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

You smoke weed every day because you are mentally addicted.

I smoke weed everyday to quiet the cacophony that is our insane world.

We both have mental health issues.

[-] Kirbenstein@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Marijuana is absolutely physically addictive as much as people want to say it isnt. Mind you im someone who smokes the minute they leave work until they go to bed. So im not here to push any kind of anti-marijuana view point, but i do think we as stoners should be honest. Everyone i know who stops smoking weed has two very common side effects.

  1. They have a lot of trouble getting to sleep
  2. Wild/fucked up dreams.

I understand that this is a side effect of lack of REM but you cant say these aren’t physical withdrawal symptoms. Research is needed, but just because we all want it to be legal, doesn’t mean we should ignore the facts.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Marijuana is absolutely physically addictive as much as people want to say it isnt.

I mean it scientifically isn't though. Physical addictions don't just give you psychological withdrawals, they are physical. Your body becomes dependent on them to maintain homeostasis.

Cold turkeying drugs like opioids and benzos can kill you.

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[-] chris_@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

Dude those “withdrawal symptoms” are a joke compared to any other drug.

That said, I don’t know a single person who identifies as a stoner that isn’t completely and utterly mentally addicted. And the drug is so subtle, stoners rarely try to stop.

Cocaine, even a 2 day bender is incredibly hard on your body. If you’re a person with any kind of responsibilities in your life, you’ll be strongly incentivized to reconsider the habit in no time.

But weed, it’s meh. Most users can restrict their use to when they’re not at work, so it’s fine.

Which makes it more dangerous.

I’ve watched so many promising futures flushed down the toilet by weed. Motivation? gone. Real hobbies? Indoors in front of a screen only. At its worst, I’ve seen friends totally withdraw from socializing almost entirely. Social anxiety combined with the escape of being high was enough to dampen and deny the very real human need to connect with others.

Every single one of these individuals went through some form of depression that was was extended and exacerbated by escapism and addiction in the form of excessive marijuana usage.

I know that’s not everyone. There are people who use it in a healthy, balanced way.

But there are also a ton of people who get heavily addicted because it dampens the pain of something they’re going through. And that pattern can make it a lot harder to make progress and work through whatever that person is dealing with.

Anyone who’s spent any time around stoners knows this is true. And yeah, for a lot of people, it’s a gateway drug. I’ve seen plenty of buddies in college jump from weed to xans to oxy. It’s ruined lives. It made my best friend drop out.

And yeah, these people clearly already had issues. But that’s how drug addiction works. It preys on people who are going through something and it makes a bad situation way worse.

Weed can do the exact same thing. Doesn’t matter if it’s not physically addicting.

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[-] Bucket_of_Truth@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Cuz weed fuckin rocks bruv.

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[-] Rhin0@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Weed is not going to ruin your life the same way like benzos and alcohol would. If you smoke everyday then you probably aren't very productive, but you are not actively ruining your life.

Weed is dangerous because of how safe it is. It makes you ok with being bored and not progressing/growing as a person. Alcohol addiction will straight up make you homeless.

[-] ruck_feddit@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Someone else said it, but I agree:

if alcohol were discovered today, it would 100% be illegal in no time

[-] rarely@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

If you aren't very productive you haven't found the right strain.. or you're eating edibles.

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[-] Kushia@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I use it about once a week. I have friends who get drunk more frequently then that. I can see why people would use it every day but they shouldn't imo.

[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago

People react differently to all substances, the real test for addiction is if you can stop doing it for say, 3 weeks in a row, not how often you do it... You can do it once a month and still be addicted but as long as you can stop for 3-4x longer than you usually would, you're probably not

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[-] ugh@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I'd say that's the correct take on drug use. Are you trying to argue that you're not addicted?

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[-] Cuteblooded@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm in this picture and I don't like it.

(I've stopped spreading the "not addictive" BS, but am still very addicted)

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[-] taanegl@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Why? My guy, have you seen the world? Have you seen how people treat each other? If you don't smoke I don't know what the fuck you're doing, but if it's to be "a moral and upstanding citizen" I both laugh and cry at your blissful ignorance.

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[-] Browning@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

It's a choice. I could stop any time I like!

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[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

There's withdrawal but of the four drugs i have been physically addicted to (caffeine, weed, nicotine, and SSRIs) it's the only one I can cold turkey in under a week and feel fine.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 1 year ago

I don't have to.

I want to.

[-] MinusPi@pawb.social 12 points 1 year ago

If you can't ignore the want, that's an addiction

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well when I don't have any and can't get any, I think "if I had a joint that would be nice." The same way one might want a pizza they can't afford. But it doesn't occupy my mind all day, like if I'm out of cigarettes.

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[-] Wooly@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Because I'm bored, I don't smoke when I have to do shit like work. But I'm never doing shit.

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[-] Squiglet@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well it really isn't addictive as opiates for example are. You wont become chemically dependant to it. The kind of addiction it causes is the same one that social media, TV, gaming, etc might cause. It becomes an habit and you get used to that. I know this is a simplification but this is how I see it.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

Because before it my ADHD made it functionally impossible to sleep, since when I'm not on the meds my mind runs too hard and when I am on the meds I can't sleep either because they're prescription meth, but weed solves that problem and I enjoy sleeping.

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[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Weed def has some mild physical withdrawal, but nothing like opiates/benzos/or alcohol. It's not soul crushing ftmp.

But I consider anything needed outside of myself to function as an inconvenience, so that's pretty much life as a whole. Damned if you do damned if you don't. Gotta consume the world to experience it. I try to limit my consumption these days.

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