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[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 158 points 1 month ago

So, the EU banned these trucks because they present a danger to pedestrians, and someone modded one with rubberized bumpers to get it registered. That's it. That's the story.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 95 points 1 month ago

the EU banned

No. The EU has not done anything regarding this car or this model.

The EU is just having rules that have made the drivers licenses and the registration process comparable and somewhat similar in it's member countries, and to let cars from the other member countries drive on their roads.

The article tells about some of these rules, but it mixes it up with the bedtime stories from this Euro-NCAP guy so that you could get many wrong ideas.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

EU laws in EU countries prohibit the registering of vehicles that don't meet certain guidelines that would protect pedestrians, yes?

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not exactly. As the article says, each country has it's own registration laws, and the guidelines from this NGO are usually not a part of the laws.

A country may still have it's own guidelines for the topic.

[-] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Reading is hard.

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[-] Neon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

It couldn't be banned because it was never approved in the first place

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[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago

There is no overlap in the venn diagram of people who want a Cybertruck and people who consider pedestrian safety when buying a personal vehicle.

Actually, is there anyone that makes vehicle purchasing decisions considering pedestrian safety scores?

[-] Wxfisch@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago

No, because no one intends to hit a pedestrian with the car they are buying. That’s why we need to mandate safer vehicles, not trust people to factor that in as they look for a car.

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

I say build in spring loaded spikes that impale the driver in the event of a collision with a pedestrian. Since the cyber truck pretty much has that facing the pedestrians, if the driver is faced with the threat as well maybe they'll be more careful with their driving.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I’d say auto stop features and multiple camera views on reverse are a good selling point of a car. I certainly regret not getting the overhead camera view on the vehicle I purchased (and the blind spot indicators which don’t apply to pedestrians).

I’d also like to see the infra-red windshield overlays make it out of the prototype stage. This night vision/heat vision feature helps to alert you to deer, dogs, wildlife, and those dumb asses that insist on walking down the road at night in dark clothing in my neighborhood.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

auto stop features and multiple camera views

That wasn't meant by "pedestrian safety".

Pedestrian safety is looking at the amount of damage that a car could do to pedestrians in an accident. It comes down to how the car is built. Things like no sharp edges, no hard materials, no dangerous liquids can leak out etc.

It is quite the opposite of what Massa Elon had in mind when he designed that silly truck. And that's why this is a topic at all.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago

Systematic problems require systematic solutions

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

no one intends to hit a pedestrian with the car they are buying

pssh, speak for yourself

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[-] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 2 points 1 month ago

Parents, maybe? They are usually so concerned about children's safety, whether that's their kids or someone else's.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

No, most parents will consider vehicle safety for their kids, airbag effects on toddlers, scoring on side impacts, etc... and don't give two shits about other people's kids.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Doesn't the existence of this modded truck prove that statement wrong? Because I'm pretty sure you made the only statement explicitly refuted by the existence of this truck.

Congratulations?

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

It's not actually any safer, they taped thin rubber strips over the exposed edges. Someone's friends with an inspector who played dumb, me thinks.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 76 points 1 month ago

If I see one in europe im going to vandalize it.

We didn’t need your f150’s and we don’t need this. If you love american cars so much just fucking move you complex filled husk of a man.

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[-] atempuser23@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Article sucks. Buried the lead that so few of these trucks are registered that they are individual exemptions for them. Just like how you can build your own car from the ground up and get it registered.

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[-] _core@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Easy, domestic auto producers bribe politicians to make it illegal for foreign automakers to compete in the US because if it were alllowed, domestic automakers would get destroyed.

[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I don't think it would be difficult to get the IMV up to compliance with US regulations. If they're selling it in Mexico, it'll be required to have airbags. The hood looks long enough to have engineered in proper crumpling in a crash. Things like backup cameras might require a little bit of retooling, but that's not actually super expensive compared to the other expenses of officially bringing it in: the 25% import tax, a parts and service network, etc.

So it's a business decision not to even try to get it into the U.S., informed by those regulations.

In contrast, something like a kei truck wouldn't be easy to get street legal as a new car in the US: no crumple zone and higher center of gravity are more fundamental safety issues that can't easily be engineered around.

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

In contrast, something like a kei truck wouldn't be easy to get street legal as a new car in the US: no crumple zone and higher center of gravity are more fundamental safety issues that can't easily be engineered around.

Meanwhile every landscaper is buying brand new Isuzu trucks that are just larger version of kei trucks. The reason they arent legal isnt saftey, but it would eat into the profits of the big 3.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

Chicken tax 2.5

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[-] purrtastic@lemmy.nz 24 points 1 month ago

I haven’t read wired in a few years, and it looks like I haven’t missed anything.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Wow. Such a confused writer. Such a terrible post.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I love the dacia spring mentioned in the article 😍 most price efficient car out there 😁 it is lightweight and max power is just enough 👌🏻

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 1 points 1 month ago
[-] filister@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Uglier than the Cybertruck? I don't think so.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

🤣as if I would care how a car looks 😅 what does it change? You see it from the inside, mostly. And personally I don’t think it is ugly, so your statement is wrong. You may say you think it is ugly which is an opinion that anyone is allowed to have. Saying it is ugly is said as fact, which is not possible for ugly/beautiful, since those can not be scientifically measured.

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