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[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 75 points 2 weeks ago

They aren't protecting you. They are protecting themselves from what you may give their enemies. Don't think just because the federal government is doing something "for the people" that nominally it's not about the government itself. National security is literally the government protecting itself by protecting its citizens.

[-] Sakychu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty much this! Also it is much easier and cheaper to tell Google to stop offering tiktok in their app store then it is to build affordable housing where it is needed..

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yea but where? There’s a push for it in my state. Drove past a new area that will be a neighborhood of cookie cutter SFH, probably with driveways too short to contain full size vehicles. And they’ll cost more than half a million so I’m not sure how that’s affordable. Anyway. It’s being built on the flood plain. 8/10 flood factor.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

We really need more high density housing closer to urban centers, but Americans seem to be allergic to it. Everyone wants their single family house. Also too, without subsidies they're is no profit incentive for developers to build the necessary housing stock, they all shoot for "luxury" housing because it's the most profitable.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I've always wanted like... A townhome. But the problem is anything like that (even away from city/population centers but still near enough to commute is astronomically expensive.

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[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

Facebook sold personal data to a foreign organization called Cambridge Analytica who used it to influence our elections. If their motivations are to protect us via protecting themselves, why is Facebook not banned, and not even in the discussion of being banned?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

For one thing, today isn't 2015

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Did occurring in 2015 happen to make it less bad somehow? We sure as hell weren't passing laws to ban facebook back then either, so I'm not sure what point you think you've made.

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[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 32 points 2 weeks ago

I’m on board with the sentiment but are we really defending TikTok? I haven’t kept up on the issue but personally I wouldn’t cry if TikTok went away.

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Facefuck and Twatter are just as bad but they spy on Americans for America, so it is allowed

[-] variants@possumpat.io 23 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly get rid of all of them

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

They won't go away until people stop using them, and good luck with that.

[-] babybus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I want Facebook! The one without recommendations and with posts from my friends.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

I mean from American government pov that's a lot better

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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

We are not defending tiktok

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't you know that if you criticize one thing it means the opposite is perfect and beyond reproach!

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago

*40 year inflation brought on because the government wanted 14 years of free money for Corporations.

Monetary policy and Corporate price gouging are the drivers for inflation. Everything else is noise.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Ok but fuck tik Tok. Ban that shit. This comment is basically saying that banning tik Tok takes the same effort as giving your people healthcare.

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The amount of time and money the American government and associated propaganda agencies (they call them news ) have spent on anti TikTok (really just a racist anti China campaign) would definitely have made a huge difference if spent on their social safety net.

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[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ok because I see a lot of stupid shit in here, you don't get to talk about banning tiktok if you don't talk about banning Instagram, Reddit, X and YouTube, who use the same formula, with equal fervour.

Now please talk about healthcare, climate crisis, the Palestinian ethnic cleansing by that cancerous, land grabbing, terrorist Israeli state and the shrinking buying power of the people all around the world.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Then you should have voted blue, idiot. This situation exists because of apathy and antigovernment sentiment.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Did Clinton ever undo all the load of crap Reagan and Bush gave us?

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Clinton was 30 fucking years ago and Republicans have been stonewalling ever since then on every since one of these issues.

What the fuck are you talking about about????

[-] sakodak@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Clinton signed into law a whole raft of neoliberal policies that were started by Bush, and the cumulative effects of those policies over those decades are what we're feeling right now and what we warned about back then. The frogs have been boiled while the populace bickers about which neoliberal corporate shill sits on the puppet throne. They're after all our money and they're getting it by distracting us with the political circus and dividing us with wedge issues.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Clinton is one the few presidents in the last 100 years that has operated on a SURPLUS. Meaning he’s the only president to lower the national debt

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Got news for you, their not protecting us from Tik Tok either.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Calling Republicans government...smh

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

How can Steve ban tiktok if Doug won't let him mitigate homelessness? Why is Bob talking about housing when Alex is gung-ho on genocide?

Sorry, I meant to ask: how can the government ban tiktok when the government won't do anything about homelessness? How can the government be proud of mitigating homelessness when the government supports genocide?

Citizens United must be a curse from a Greek god. A funny little jab to highlight our tendency to oversimplify.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Im down with the idea of social media being a threat to citizens for so long as the algorithms optimize for anger.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

On the other hand, I'm not sure I'd prefer another "opiate of the masses".

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Mostly agreed, but is anyone really getting minimum wage? Walmart pays double that to start in my little town.

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Idaho has federal minimum and iirc laws preventing county or city minimums to be higher than the state minimum. Lots of service and farmhand jobs there are at minimum wage. One of the places I used to work was saught after in the town because they pay higher than minimum. I made $7.50/hr

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Go to places like KY, IN, TN, WV. Probably LA, and MS. They regularly start people @ minimum wage, and the rents are about 2/3 what I would pay in San Diego.

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