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tfw someone just steals feelings out of your brain and puts them to words (slrpnk.net)

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[-] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 23 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I'm getting a sort of buffer underrun when doing routine so I'll always try and make trivial tasks or busywork faster, more efficient, or superfluous through process design. When I cannot do that, I'll listen to music or podcasts, that helps somewhat.
The main drawback of this condition is that many employers think I simply "like to work" and bury me in even more busywork.

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[-] AddLemmus@lemmy.ml 34 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

It's actually the normies who can't even do laundry without a little neurotransmitter bottle from mommy frontal cortex. We fight demons every day.

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 23 hours ago

I feel fucking seen by this post

It rings right to my core

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 31 points 23 hours ago

For fucking real. Same deal with autism for me.

[-] Lurkinney@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago

What hurts is guessing wrong what people around you care about and then realizing that what they care about is the thing you cared about before you realized that they actually just didn't understand what you were actually worried about. It starts to feel like the matrix but you aren't NEO you're just the cat.

[+] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -29 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

having grown up with ADD and ADHD being huge in schools and then reading countless studies over the past few decades about how inaccurate diagnoses and the understanding of ADD and ADHD are, I will be very cautious in administering any medication to my children for popular syndromes.

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 34 points 20 hours ago

neurodivergence, adhd included, is actually widely underdiagnosed - some doctors estimate 1 in 5 people is neurodivergent. And those rates have been rising (though possibly because of increased acceptance)

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 43 points 19 hours ago

Turns out it was a small sect known as the "Morning People" oppressing everyone for millennia.

[-] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 17 hours ago

I recently read an article about a doctor who was making a case that the issue is not that those 1 in 5 are "neurodivergent", but our current society is causing harm. When he sees ADHD symptoms his first "treatments" are proper nutrition, making sure they feel like they're doing meaningful things in life, enough exercise, etc...

I'm also sometimes starting to wonder if for a part we're not just medicating people to "thrive" in a society that's inhuman, rather than make society work for as many people as possible.

But it's of course a very complex & grey area, and let's be honest, something as vague as ADHD probably encompasses a lot of different causes. And it'll probably take decades of research before we actually manage to split up all the things that are today lumped together into the separate things with each their own propert treatment.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

What are you talking about, spending 8 hours a day in a chair staring into a light-up rectangle and getting yelled at over the phone is the natural human state, and anyone who can't force themselves to do so has something wrong with them.

Seriously, though, the problem is real. A psychologist can be fully aware the patient has anxiety about paying rent because they can't make rent, but the only tool available to help them in a professional capacity is treating the anxiety. Same goes for depression and the rest. Hell, thinking about it now, same would have been true of drapetomania.

[+] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

right, and with that sort of prevalence, and so little detrimental effects to society, there isn't good enough evidence for advocating "treatment" of most people who just think differently than other people.

largely, they notice or pay attention to different things, so "treatments" are unnecessary, obtrusive or damaging.

exception given to extreme cases, "treating" ADHD seems a lot like removing funding for arts courses because school administrators don't value the arts.

[-] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago

Hi. I failed out of college, in no small part due to undiagnosed ADHD. I wanna offer a little pushback.

I can't tell if you want to change society to be less punishing to neurodivergent people, or if your whole thesis is "People with ADHD have little to no trouble in society today".

If it's the former: not treating people who are struggling is not the way to change society. Accepting for the sake of argument that ADHD people "pay attention to different things"; paying attention to some things is critical to my ability to thrive. I would love to live in a world where I could just do what I thought was important and still have my needs taken care of, but unfortunately I'm stuck needing to pay attention to stupid bullshit I don't care about in order to make a living, and that's a tremendous struggle without medication.

If it's the latter: Jesus Christ, talk to someone with ADHD.

And finally: I take issue with your metaphor at the end. What do you think is present in an unmedicated person with ADHD that is somehow missing in a medicated person?

[+] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

"less punishing to neurodivergent people"

I mostly agree with this.

"People with ADHD have little to no trouble in society today"

i disagree, that is antithetical to my previous comment.

that said, neurotypical or divergent, if you don't have trouble in society today, I want to know more about your society.

"not treating people who are struggling is not the way to change society"

yes, and neither is treating people who don't wish to be treated or are treated unnecessarily.

are you sure you're responding to the right comment? I haven't said many of the things you are arguing against so far.

"and that's a tremendous struggle without medication"

then according to my previous comment, you are one of the extreme cases that need and want intervention, and should receive it.

"I take issue with your metaphor at the end"

I gather from your preceding assumptions and arguments against things that I have not said, along with your general combative tone, that you have been quixoticaly swept up in an imagined narrative that you feel you must do battle with.

"What do you think is present in an unmedicated person with ADHD that is somehow missing in a medicated person?"

missing? nothing.

[-] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Combative? Take a look in the mirror pal.

I guess I'm ultimately confused about what you're arguing for. My ADHD is by no means "extreme"; trouble focusing at work or school is one of the baseline things you're unlikely to get diagnosed without. I can't imagine any reasonable person advocating for medicating people who don't stand to benefit from it, which seems to be the motte to your bailey.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

"Combative?"

yup.

"Take a look in the mirror pal."

thank you! that was a nice break.

"I guess I'm ultimately confused about what you're arguing for."

I would suggest asking the source for clarification or further information rather than misattributing assumptions and then arguing against those assumptions, none of which are present in the comment you are confused by and subsequently railing against.

"I can't imagine any reasonable person advocating for medicating people who don't stand to benefit from it"

tolerant place you're from.

"seems to be the motte to your baile"

how so?

My original comment isn't controversial and I didn't switch positions either.

is this a gaslighting attempt?

are you lighting my gas?

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[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago

we don't give a shit what "detriment to society" adhd is. Executive dysfunction is detrimental to the quality of life, and that's one symptom amongst many

the society was built for neurotypical people, and so neurodiverse people need help to function in it in a way that doesn't make them feel worthless - and that means treatment, be it with therapy and/or meds