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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Looks like my account was banned/restricted for the above interaction, have already sent the mods on world an email asking if they'd be willing to reverse that. Had an episode of psychosis a few months ago where I did say some offensive stuff, (understandably) got a 3 month ban on .lol for that, so could see my account having been flagged.

I uh, I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect people to check others profiles to ensure we are correctly pronouning them… when making a throw away comment that is less than 10 words involving a ludicrously common saying. Jerboa does not show users pronouns. I could switch to an app that DOES show the pronouns, do any Lemmings have a recommendation for a free Lemmy mobile app that has that feature?

Edit: Edie chimed in, Jerboa does show pronouns. It's a formatting issue with mobile vs browser (She has them on individual text lines so they don't appear on mobile).

Was just going to respond to the user in question to let them know I wasn't purposefully trying to offend that individual, to discover I'm not able to post or make comments on world now, so figured I'd see what y'alls opinion on the matter is.

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[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago

No, if they want to be gendered appropriately, they should have it in their username.

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[-] dumbass@leminal.space 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You are supposed to do deep research on the person you're commenting to....

I barely even read usernames, plus Voyager App doesn't show profile bios, so even if I wanted to check their profile I can't and I'm sure as fuck not using the mobile website to get the information.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 16 points 1 day ago

Same. Voyager doesn't show it, I'll do my best, but I'm not going to feel bad when I miss

[-] dumbass@leminal.space 13 points 1 day ago

That's why I just stick with they/them, anyone who gets annoyed about me using that isn't worth the energy, it's an anonymous message board, I don't know you, that's my purse!

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 1 day ago
[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Remember kids, moron is a genderless word that can be applied to anyone!

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[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

It's reasonable, especially if they got a trans flag in their name. But even if not, it's one click and a swipe back.

[-] basmati@lemmus.org 3 points 22 hours ago

This is why gender abolition should've won out.

[-] 2kool4idkwhat@lemdro.id 18 points 1 day ago

I generally just use gender neutral language. I would check the person's bio before using a phrase like that tho, especially if they have a trans flag emoji in their name

That being said, getting banned/restricted for that comment alone seems a bit extreme to me tho

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago

What app do you use? Last I checked, pronouns are part of display names for Hexbear users. You shouldn’t have to check profiles. That’s the whole point of them being included in display names. Your app would ideally just respect display names and it would require no extra effort on your part to gender people correctly.

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[-] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm pretty apathetic to gender in general but I've had gender confirming surgery to be NB which I guess technically makes me trans and to be prefectly honest I've never felt more judged for it than by the lemmy LGBTQ+ community. The 50y/o southern man that was my nursing supervisor back when I was a new graduate was more respectful of my gender and lived experiences than these people. Honestly the thing they seem to hate most is specifically me expressing apathy for gender; I've mentioned that my transness expresses itself by not caring about the whole pronoun thing or needing to have any specific pronouns for myself personally, but that I understand it's a matter of respect for others and I've literally gotten banned for saying that. Like almost exactly that. They're absolutely hateful bastards for no reason other than that they're upset and need everybody else to be upset too. I'm lucky I have a handful of supportive people irl because I sure asf wasn't gonna find it here!

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[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

Nah it can’t be expected

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago

Using a client that shows the pronouns in hexbear is good and it sounds like you are doing that now.

As a follow up, I recommend approaching gender just as one would if they were bring mindful with new people. If you don't know pronouns, using they/them is a fine way to start referring to someone neutrally. You can also just use their name. It is considerate to then figure out what they prefer in a non-awkward way, either by how others talk or by just asking them nicely. Having pronouns displayed by names is just helpful for clarity and speeding things up online.

[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 22 points 1 day ago
[-] chillBurner@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Uh, yes, but its a mutual misunderstanding from both sides...

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If they don't list their pronouns and i can't tell by their speech i just go neutral. Checking profiles for gender is definitely not considered necessary in the circles i run in. If poster doesn't make it clear and doesn't have pronouns listed honest mistakes will be made and forgiven

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