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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 21 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

obligatory 🐧 that must be in every thread

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 18 points 23 hours ago

hahahahahah does anyone really think microsoft cares? their money is in business with all the big players already deploying 11 at least in modest amounts.

nothing stopped them when windows7 was still functional and they were pushing the tpm requirement, i dont see a difference here.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago

Their money is now in azure. Os and app suites are a declining business, but they help with azure lock in.

[-] Upsidedownturtle@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

I'd guess that major UI revisions are a big reason for average users. People don't like having to relearn how to do something or find a setting. If M$ implemented a legacy UI setting that by and large mimicked the interface and controls in W10 they'd clear a major hurdle preventing less technologically inclined users from upgrading.

[-] krippix@feddit.org 5 points 18 hours ago

My guess is that the average user doesn't care at all and just clicks away update notifications because they are annoyed by them

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

Lots of people moving to Linux over Win11 anyway.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

A lot do myself included. But not enough to matter. Most ordinary Windows users don't even know what Linux is or understand why they should care.

[-] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Exactly - not enough to matter so not a lot.

Enthusiasts willing to get out of their comfort zone in whatever topic we choose are rare like kryptonite. The fact that you know 10 people, or a 1000 is by no means a lot considering the number of PC users.

[-] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, right. 🙄

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 5 points 20 hours ago

Bring Windows 12. Windows 11 is terrible.

[-] trespasser69@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago

Windows 12 will be even worse

Yup...Windows 12? The evil monkey's paw demon is like, "I'll give you that wish for free."

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[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 6 points 21 hours ago

My question is this: Do Microsoft ship crap-infested versions to people who could make their lives uncomfortable, like, say, intelligence agencies, or do those agencies take a crap-infested version and have their IT security strip all the crap out?

Because if I was in charge of an intelligence agency I'd be asking - with dangerous smile - for the crap-free version, turn IT loose on it anyway and then be, shall we say, horribly invasive to Microsoft if there's anything still left in it.

... and if I wanted Windows, I'd want whatever the end result of that is.

On the other hand, maybe this has already happened and that "horrible invasion" is the cause of all the spyware crap in the consumer release.

Sigh.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 20 hours ago

Both. The enterprise edition has less crap, but most big companies will use custom images and group policy to decrapify it further. I do the same thing at home since I used to be the guy doing it at work. I don't get any of the copilot or recall bullshit.

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