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[-] imsodin@infosec.pub 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Also from seemingly reasonable commenters there are many arguments around security coming up. I don't get how one can jump to that idea? This obviously has nothing to do with security, it's about sanction compliance. And yes, likely a pretty pointless sanction compliance in this instance, as the sanctioned entities don't have a direct benefit from having an employee name mentioned in the kernel. However that's not how sanctions work, both just because, and also intuitively it makes sense: Sanctions wouldn't be enforcable at scale if every single case would have to be judged on merit - it's hard enough to enforce them as is.

And btw I so hope most of the comments on here are Russian trolls, but I fear many are people that fully drunk the Russian trolls' cool-aid and are now fully brainwashed...

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 hours ago

Linus is an absolute cunt for not only following this gleefully but then attributing pushback to "russian trolls" and "state propaganda" fuck you man.

These people weren't the MIT pricks who inserted vulnerabilities into the kernel, they were contributors who did hard work and helped advance FREE software. Linus is now turning his back on the GPL and manning it clear that Linux can be controlled by the US state on a whim.

[-] endofline@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago

Actually I'm interested how it looks legally ( it somebody cares about it at all ). Whether the Russian contributors could ask to revert their changes as they most likely never signed the contract to transfer their code copyrights. For sure it will have a big impact on foss because if you have at least one American and Russian contributors, you may get in the biggest shitshow. Additionally if I was considering now to become a contributors, I'd be wondering if it's worthy at all to work for free and then to be banned no thanks for whole free work years

[-] nialv7@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

IANAL, but I think the general answer is no. When someone contribute code to an open source project, although they aren't giving up their copyright, they do grant the recipient (and the rest of the world, for that matter) a license to use their code. In case of Linux, this is the GNU Public License. Unless GPL has a section about license revocation that I am not aware of, you won't be able to take your code back.

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[-] fireshell@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Linus Torvalds Confirms Decision to Remove Maintainers from Russia

You couldn't come up with a more powerful spit in the direction of FOSS. And from Linus, who is now kind of showing f*ck to the entire community. Here you have freedom, openness and all that. Today they just wiped their ass with it, and by one of the founders.

This is the moment when the split politics, dirty ones from all sides, have penetrated into the very heart of OpenSource - into the Linux kernel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_YozYt8l-g

[-] ChiefSinner@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

Uhh ~~sir~~ Linus, this is a ~~Wendy's~~ Linux kernel.

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Why force your political beliefs on something that has nothing to do with?

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago

Not sure if being against Russian aggression can be called a "political belief" as nearly all Finns pretty much agree on it.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago

Software still has to follow legal rules, like when some distros removed stuff to be ITAR /EAR compliant for shipping across borders

Nothing is stopping Russia from taking the Open Source kernel and developing it themselves

[-] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 11 points 7 hours ago

@BCsven @fireshell Or Linus from moving the organization back to Finland, or Iceland, or Switzerland, or some other more neutral territory.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I'm not sure if you're kidding, so I'll just note that Finland and Iceland are NATO member states, and Finland is notoriously against Russian aggressions due to history.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

I think the commentor meant in regard to US restrictions that may get imposed on a project, since they have odd ITAR/EAR controls. Moving sonewhere with less export restrictions could alter choices of development.

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