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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Police police police police police police.

[-] Vigge93@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I've known of this supposed sentence and still can't parse whatever the fuck is connecting the two groups of bullying animals who are both from the upstate NY city.

[-] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

…buffalo?

[-] Vigge93@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Buffalo bison that other Buffalo bison bully also bully Buffalo bison.

There are three groups, the bullies, the bullied bullies, and the bullied.

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[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

i'd still take this over the ett/en thing in swedish. basically, "ett" and "en" both mean "a" if they come before the word, and "the" if they get smashed onto the end of a word. (e.g., "ett apotek" means "a pharmacy", but "apoteket" means "the pharmacy"; "en hund" means "a dog", but "hunden" means "the dog".)

but despite "ett" and "en" meaning the same thing, they aren't interchangeable. some words are "ett" words, while others are "en" words, and you just have to remember which ones are which.

to further complicate things, there are some words that can end with "et" or "en", but each ending means something different. this typically happens with "ett" words using "en" for the plural forms of the word. for example, "barn" means "child", "ett barn" means "a child", "barnet" means "the child", but "barnen" means "the children". (it's worth also mentioning that "barn" means either "child" or "children", depending on the context.)

[-] arken@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Lots of languages have gendered nouns, though. Three genders isn't uncommon in European languages and in most cases you just have to learn the nouns with their genders.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you’re right that lots of other languages have gendered nouns. however, swedish nouns are not gendered in the “traditional” sense. i.e., it is not the case that some nouns are “masculine” and others are “feminine”.

i think the wikipedia page does a good job of explaining it:

Nouns have one of two grammatical genderscommon(utrum) and neuter (neutrum), which determine their definite forms as well as the form of any adjectives and articles used to describe them. Noun gender is largely arbitrary and must be memorized; however, around three quarters of all Swedish nouns are common gender. Living beings are often common nouns, like in en katt "a cat", en häst "a horse", en*fluga* "a fly", etc.

edit: i wanted to clarify that this isn’t some major gripe i have with the language. i think all spoken languages are bound to have their own quirks and that’s okay, it can just make certain things a bit tricky when learning the language. as a whole, i think swedish is a very nice language

[-] arken@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Swedish used to have masculine and feminine gendered nouns historically - and some dialects still do - but they were simplified into two grammatical genders, utrum and neutrum, just as your link says. (There are remnants though, for example "vad är klockan?" "hon är halv fyra"). Masculine and feminine were just squashed into the "utrum" gender, basically, and neutrum is neuter.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

thank you for the explanation. that helps to clear things up a bit and it’s also nice to have some context for why things are the way they are in the language. i had always been told that the “ett/en” thing was just an arbitrary quirk of the language, so it’s nice to get a more concrete explanation of it.

the example you gave was also super helpful. i found it confusing that sometimes “hon” meant “it”. i had always been told (in casual conversations) that swedish wasn’t a gendered language, so that whole thing was quite confusing until now.

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[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

~~English~~ American Culture.

The structure of those sentences are very straightforward. The cultural zeitgeist that caused that one iteration to become positive in meaning is just random chance.

Like nested replies on Reddit that all say the same thing. All of them are being upvoted, except one of them is randomly being downvoted into oblivion.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

shit and fuck are the most versatile words

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Fuck that shit.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago
[-] M137@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[-] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ismo is a Finnish comedian! He has a joke in one of his routines that plays out just like this. And that first letter is a capital i.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 8 points 1 day ago

Easy, don't learn no shit vocab.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago
[-] tasankovasara@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

They generally leave the shitty bits to more advanced learners.

[-] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br -5 points 1 day ago

English: the most junkiest language I've learned until now. And it's unfortunately the most prominent around the whole world, until the tragic downfall of the United States of America arrives.

[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Don't forget most places speak English because the UK colonized them.

[-] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 day ago

There's also this too. Shucks.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

"Most junkiest" is a redundancy.

[-] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 day ago

The junkiest. Here's my correction.

[-] notsure@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago

accuracy through obscurity and debate...the american english language

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