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[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

Because easy and accessible voting is extremely bad for one party.

[-] Enfors@lemm.ee 9 points 7 hours ago

"We"? Who are "we"? Star fleet?

People have to remember that this is the Internet, this thing is global.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

Because corporations own you and this means they can pressure how you vote in key states.

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

We don't get the day off to vote in MN but you are legally allowed to take time off to go vote (with pay). So when I was in the office, I always voted in the middle of the day right after my lunch hour.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Our boss just took us out to lunch and gave us four hours off the rest of the day to go out and vote, which is probably the most encouragement to vote I think I've ever gotten from any boss before. I'm sure I was entitled to it this whole time, but it's never been encouraged like this before with this boss at any of my other workplaces, if anything, previous bosses probably would've talked shit if I said that's what I wanted to do with my time.

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Early voting is a better solution to the problem than making it a day off, though.

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

I had a job for a few years with no MLK and no President's day. That stretch from New Years to Memorial Day was very, very long.

[-] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago

Meanwhile all the schools in my area are polling places so kids don't have school.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Forcing many parents to take the day off anyway, but unpaid (or using PTO time, if they have it).

Working as intended. Make voting as difficult and distasteful as possible so we can welcome fascism with big warm hugs. Finally, no more of that voting nonsense.

[-] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 31 points 16 hours ago

In most civilized countries, voting takes place on weekends and your employer is legally obligated to let you leave work to go vote

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago

Employees have to let you leave to vote.

They can also fire you the next day for a coincidentally unrelated reason, and unless you have 50k in lawyers retainers handy there’s not shit you can do about it

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago

That's not true.

In most states, employers don't need any reason at all to fire you.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

“At will” employment, woohoo!

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Depends on the state. In MN state law allows you take as much time as necessary to go vote with pay. I can't remember when this was passed but I'm going to "Thanks Walz" anyways.

[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Some places give you a whole week to vote, and the polls are open 12 hours a day. So if you something happens and your plans are ruined, you have ample time to still make it to the polls.

[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

And why is presidents day called Washington's birthday?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Fred Astaire would explain it to you, but he can't tell a lie.

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Because originally the holiday just celebrated the first US president, George Washington and then they consolidated into Presidents Day so they didn't have plethora of Dead President Birthday holidays.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

We had Washington's Birthday and Lincoln's Birthday both as holidays when I was a kid. Lincoln was born in November, so it wasn't a perfect balance with February, but it was close enough to one.

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah and I think they collapsed into president's day to avoid adding a day for Kennedy.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

That would make sense.

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 115 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because they don't want the workers voting.

If you "can't go to the ballot because you need to work" you are a plebeian, and so they have a way of excluding you while technically not excluding you.

A lot of modern oligarchy is powered by these technicalities. Technically everyone has a "right to" participate in the system, but the whole apparatus is rigged in such a way that in material reality only the same nobility caste that has called the shots since the bronze fucking age gets to call the shots.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 20 points 22 hours ago

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread."

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

By law employers are required to allow their workers an opportunity to vote. The problem is other stuff like taking their kids to school and having to go to work right after and by the time you make it to the poll through rush hour traffic, the line is out the door and they shut it down and don’t let you vote even though you waited for an hour.

[-] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I'm so glad my state has mail-in voting. Sorry buddy.

[-] tquid@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago

My roommate asked for time off to vote; her employer literally laughed at her. Now, there is legal recourse there, and she would have likely won and even gotten awarded a money judgment.

But she needed that job without interruption. This was in Canada, by the way.

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 22 hours ago

So the bare minimum that even my little Eastern European hellhole could do was that a polling place closing means that those in line can still vote.

A poll worker gets in line exactly at closing time, and those in front get to vote however long that takes. It's not hard to organize.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, it's exactly the same in the very opposite end of Europe (and about as poor) - Portugal - which I know becaused I maned the polling places a couple of times and read the rule book.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

Thanks for your service, unironically

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Dudes working at most hourly lower end type jobs still wouldn't get election day off, unless you mandated like octuple pay for anyone working that day (They should)

[-] mintyogi@lemmy.zip 263 points 1 day ago
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[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 27 points 23 hours ago

We should just have elections on presidents day.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

And that way presidents day finally has an actual purpose.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It has a purpose...that's when we have big sales at the car dealerships. Just as George Washington always wanted.

How would people have time to get more car-poor if they had to stop shopping to do something silly like vote for the leader of the free world?

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[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 12 points 21 hours ago

You are getting President's Day off?

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sure, here you go: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7329

One of many such bills.

Take a look at the sponsors. I'll give you 1 guess at which party would vote it down, because it would hurt them in elections.

It's the same reason Puerto Rico will never be a state.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago

In France elections are held on a Sunday so most people don't work, the others are allowed time off to vote of course

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

Well in the US, no one was originally intended to vote but the male landed gentry, who clearly could afford to travel for several days to their polling place, get plastered on local liquor, and just shout who they were voting for at whomever was supposed to jot that down. Them that person would go off and vote for whoever they wanted, in case the peasants had gotten any silly ideas and voted for the wrong guy.

[-] moseschrute@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

I think what you just described is the electoral college

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 day ago

Cuz America is a backwards ass country

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[-] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago

Wait, you guys are getting President's Day off work??

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

Because Republicans don’t want you to vote if you have the kind of job that you can’t just take whatever time you want off.

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