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(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)

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[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 16 points 15 hours ago

Who cares, it's what they want and what they voted for, AGAIN. I'd be more concerned about the rest of the world. America can go off in a puff of smoke and it would be the best thing the ever did

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 13 points 14 hours ago

Except your trade would be hindered. Russia would plow through Europe. The power vacuum made by America "puffing up in smoke" would be so great and horrific it would probably overshadow WW2 total deaths.

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[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago

We should remember that most Americans still live in blue states with sane governments. The federal government can't just barge in and do whatever it wants, and if tries to do so, the social contract that binds the nation together is broken and secession becomes a real possibility. But that's unlikely because Trump is far too clueless to know about any of the problems he'll run into if he tries to implement any of his plans.

Which is fine for him because it was always a con anyway. He talks and acts out of his ass. What he will do is anyone's guess, but it'll at least be restrained by what's realistically possible.

[-] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

Federal laws trump state laws every time, those blue states will be just as shit as the red states in no time

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

He will absolutely move the military into a blue state to force compliance. This is how the next civil war will start. Red Force and blue resistance.

[-] Lennnny@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago

And what about the ones, like me, in red states? How fucked are we? (I know the answer and hence drunk and high rn)

[-] yrmp@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Realistically people should start to self sort and leftists should start to purchase and train with guns if they don’t have them for their family’s protection.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 18 hours ago

Join us in the PNW! We have legal weed!

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 12 points 18 hours ago

And what about project 2025. That total teeheee not our plan teeheee thing …

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 20 hours ago

anywhere from not really, to literally world war 3.

trump is a loose cannon.

We do not win here.

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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 19 points 18 hours ago

The US is just as fucked as everything and everyone else, which is 100%

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 25 points 19 hours ago

Trump was pretty ineffective in his first term, largely because he did a terrible job of supporting people who really agreed with his agenda, and an even worse job of removing people from influential positions who didn't.

He said during his campaign that he knew much better who to trust, but now he's got Elon Musk and RFK Jr. prominently featured. I don't think he has learned anything, and I think he will be just as ineffective this time.

It's possible that some of the Republicans in Congress will support more of his agenda, but even there if they have to overcome the filibuster, I don't think mass deportation, a federal abortion ban, or most of the rest of the potential worst of it is in the cards.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

I reckon that in all likelihood the Project 2025 folks will piss him off at some point and he'll just throw a tantrum and refuse to work with them. Doesn't mean he'll suddenly turn into a leftist, but if he doesn't play ball, they'll have trouble getting anything passed.

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[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

It's actually likely to be better as long as trump waddles on. He's just so god damn bumbling that even with all the cards, he'll find little ways to not get his shit done.

Mind you it won't be enough, and it will be god damn fucking horrific. But decidedly less smooth while Narcissism Jones keeps grabby-handsing the wheel from his handlers and derailing his own goals.

[-] yrmp@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Until they kill him or use the 25th amendment to install Vance. Now that he’s won, you think the people around the useful idiot who have accepted all the Russian money will just let him fuck their plans up?

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

It's a double-edged sword, even for the GOP. Trump's followers are a cult, and cultists follow one person. So without Trump as the godhead, there's no one with enough (ugh) charisma and panache to unify the GOP rabble.

[-] StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Burning the witches is WAY more important than who tells them they're allowed to burn the witches.

When they lose their "imperfect messenger from God" they'll just follow who their pastors tell them to follow. Maybe they'll change the name to the Trump Party and any nazi Christian soldier can lead it. Bible-banger Vance is lined up as the successor atm, but who knows? Could be Desantis. Could be Bannon. Anyone tapped who's willing to act out that vindictive certainty, solidarity and ferocity that Trump performs so well can do the job for them.

Maybe one of his kids. If the fundie leaders want to be truly perverse (and we know they do), they'll choose Ivanka and call it feminism.

source: grew up in a bog-standard xtian cult village in North America. I know these Good Folk, and the Sharia Law-type plans they have for women. The death of Grab-Her-By-The-Pussy will just be a chance to deify him further.

[-] yrmp@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

The right wing always galvanizes behind someone new if it means they get to hurt their enemies.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Sure, but understand basic Followership: a cultist will allow any action, any cut, so long as they believe it ingratiates them with their Leader.

No culthead, no cult following. The GOP reverts to a mob.

[-] yrmp@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Until a new strongman pops up. I’ve been watching this movie for 30+ years.

They’re not going to seize power and then fuck it up. Project 2025 will go forward. There is structure behind this movement. I’d like to believe that Trump dying or going away would fix the problem too, but it won’t.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

You might be right. I've also been watching this debacle for 30 years, so I can't say you're wrong, but I am hoping the high level marionettes die off (as so many are incredibly old) before the new crop of would-be-Confederates has a chance to reorganize.

Of course, the Dems would assuredly bungle that opportunity as well, since I have been watching this play out, act after act.

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[-] coffee_with_cream@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

The Fifth Risk is a very good read for anyone who might be interested in a finer grained look into the lesser-known functions of our government 👍

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