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Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 40 points 10 hours ago

Ding ding ding! Trump went further right and got more support. DNC should go further left. People want radical change in 2024

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[-] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 26 points 10 hours ago

This. Right. Here.

Stop the triangulation it needs to die already.

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[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 94 points 13 hours ago

If we wanted to be Republicans we'd be Republicans for fucks sake...

We can't have 2 parties fighting to be the most hateful party of the billionaires. I mean I guess we can but only one gets to win.

[-] buttfarts@lemy.lol 44 points 9 hours ago

The Democrats have been chasing the mythical moderate conservative at the expense of the progressive left forever and have learned nothing. I want a fire and brimstone progressive who is belligerent and aggressive

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 13 points 7 hours ago

I'd even be happy to settle for someone in the middle of the party willing to fight for the party's supposed ideals. Remember when one of her slogans was "when we fight, we win"? Not "when we bipartisan, we win" or "when we coopt conservative issues, we win".

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 151 points 15 hours ago

If there’s one lesson the DNC should learn it’s this.

They won’t. But they should.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 43 points 13 hours ago

Why learn anything, the policies they want will be implemented anyway 🧠

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 61 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, the notion that she was going to put a Republican in her cabinet.....did anyone think that was a good idea? I mean, outside the beltway media?

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 22 points 9 hours ago

I know every early on she was talking about possibly having a Republican Vice President before she wised up and went with Tim Walz and ran on his progressive ideas for about... three seconds till Nancy and the DNC told her to just do what Hillary did, as that worked for her and Kamela is obviously the second female president right now. /s

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[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 81 points 15 hours ago

The Republicans had their little tea party a few years ago. The Democrats need a Guillotine Party to properly represent us.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 24 points 9 hours ago

The Tea Party forced the GOP to rebrand and restructure itself around the most extreme right wing ideas possible

Occupy Wallstreet tried to do the same thing, and... were savagely beaten by the police over it.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 hours ago

Because the Tea Party was useful to just make the Republicans more unapologetically anti-government (something rich people like) while Occupy was demanding that Democrats become unapologetically antagonistic to rich people.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

The police choose who they will protect and who they will serve.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 21 points 12 hours ago

They had the billionaire Koch's to fund that. We're never getting a billionaire to fund the leopard party that will eat their faces.

:(

[-] nxn@biglemmowski.win 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Yeah, there should have been limits set on campaign costs, lobbying, media, etc. It's at a point where it doesn't seem like it's even possible to have a middle-class focused campaign that can openly say its basis is on taxing the fuck out of the top 1%.

But all I know is this: the second Trump term will make the standard of life in America far worse for most people. There will be hunger in 2028 for someone to simply say "We'll fix the middle class, and we'll make Musk, Bezos, etc pay for it". Hopefully by then what's left of twitter will not be as relevant as today, so that the message can at least have a hope of spreading through social media successfully.

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[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 1 points 6 hours ago

When you consider that left leaning folk are more likely to lean into voting apathy that the right-wing, the DNC were fools to assume they had all the left-wing votes in the bag without actually doing anything to appeal to them.

For Christ's sake, Harris got in because people wanted change over Biden, her campaign was for change, yet the first thing she says is she doesn't plan to do anything different to Biden - and if that's not a momentum killer, I don't know what is.

[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 15 hours ago

NO! Harris just needed to go further right. Forced goose-stepping marches at rallies. Pledges to eradicate all minorities. Promise global wars of conquest.

Outflank Trump on the right, and the republicans AND democrats will vote for you.

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