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submitted 17 hours ago by Zaktor@sopuli.xyz to c/politics@lemmy.world

Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 17 hours ago

NO! Harris just needed to go further right. Forced goose-stepping marches at rallies. Pledges to eradicate all minorities. Promise global wars of conquest.

Outflank Trump on the right, and the republicans AND democrats will vote for you.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

In a really morbid way that would've been funny to see, if only to witness the confusion of conservatives.

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[-] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 37 points 17 hours ago

So left wing Democrats responded by sitting on their hands instead of voting, knowingly allowing the country to slide into whatever authoritarian hellhole that awaits us? Now that’s the definition of pettiness.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 37 points 16 hours ago

Sorry dude, the problem is well beyond "leftists" and sooner or later you'll need to confront that.

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The average voter mindset is "which president will get me cheaper food?"

My parents get fed propaganda from Wechat (yes that Chinese app) saying democrats are letting too much illegal immigrants in, taking up too much resources.

We are legal immigrants, but shes doesn't see "illegal immigrant" is a dogwhistle about all immigrants that they dont like like black or brown people, or anyone they deem inferior.

Doesnt help the fact that Eric Adams and NYC democrats are building homeless shelters near Chinese American population.

My parents told me some of our relatives in NYC voted Trump, Asian Americans voting trump.

They say some Asian American co-workers at their workplace are supporting Trump.

My parent say "Its fine, we survived one term under trump"

Everyone who's a US Citizen in our household voted Kamala Harris. We tried. Our state PA still went red.

My US Citizen mom once said, "maybe we shouldn't vote for democrats, look at what they did in NYC (refering to homeless shelters)", and I reminded her about the Chinese Exclusion Act. So she vote Harris because I told her to. Like she didnt have a mind of her own. If her children turned out to be conservatives, she'd vote trump. Some people just dont care about politics. Similarly, some people have apolitical children but political parents, those children then vote for who their parents vote for.

We need to fix this voter apathy. Democracy is just broken.

(oh wow didnt mean to type a paragraph, sorry for the wall of text, election results still enraging me...)

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 14 hours ago

Blue state examples are often particularly confusing for the politically uninvolved, as Eric Adams is pretty close to a Republican. Once a state gets blue enough, anyone with ambition will just say they're Democrats and then do center-right stuff. Often the state parties are not ideological enough to deny the brand when it's just easier to make a bigger and bigger tent of insiders.

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[-] M600@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago

I’m not one of them, I voted a month or so in advance by mail.

But I wonder if some people are tired of the lack of change with Democrats in charge and believe that things need to get worse before they can get better.

As "hardcore-left" as I am, I just cannot fathom, being so dumb to not vote "to show the dems". The policies of bad Republican presidents hurt us till today. Think about Reagan vastly accelerating the gap between rich and poor, or Nixon with his failed war drugs.

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[-] orclev@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Pretty much, although it's probably an exaggeration to call them Democrats. In reality most of them are likely unaffiliated with any party. But it was literally Harris's job to convince them to come out and vote for her and she failed at it. When a candidate loses an election, barring election interference, it's their fault. Harris fucked us all by running as a diet Republican. Odds are anyone in here reading this did everything we could to hand her the win, but she pissed it all away by trying to steal votes from the Republicans instead of convincing people that they needed to get off their asses and come vote for her.

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[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 1 points 7 hours ago

When you consider that left leaning folk are more likely to lean into voting apathy that the right-wing, the DNC were fools to assume they had all the left-wing votes in the bag without actually doing anything to appeal to them.

For Christ's sake, Harris got in because people wanted change over Biden, her campaign was for change, yet the first thing she says is she doesn't plan to do anything different to Biden - and if that's not a momentum killer, I don't know what is.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

It's not so much as that it collapsed as it was artificially inflated in 2020.

The drive for covid-safe vote by mail turned out far more people in 2020 than 2024 and that helped Biden.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 15 hours ago

Trump seems to have turned out just as many as before. Plus, I don't think any of the blue wall states changed their vote by mail policies.

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